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#1 Yuradneprov

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 06:36 PM

So here is the claim... anyone care to investigate?

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#2 Bruce Pennington

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 07:15 PM

Ha!

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 07:37 PM

looks fake and total BS IMHO   :rotfl:  unless it is a Muramasa blade :glee: 


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Posted 28 January 2020 - 08:10 PM

For those too lazy to copy the link:

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=ng04KxAT0ek



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Posted 28 January 2020 - 08:16 PM

I also see ghosts every time I drink enough beer, the spirit in the fridge is particularly malevolent.


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Posted 28 January 2020 - 08:24 PM

Of course it is ridiculous, but good marketing.

What could you do better when trying to sell a bad KATANA copy with unpleasing SUGATA and wrongly applied TSUKA-ITO? 


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Posted 28 January 2020 - 09:33 PM

Lol!

The description says, when using this sword that a person becomes a better swordsman by consuming the spirit that resides in the blade!

At least the seller was nice enough to give a disclaimer to not leave unattended with children
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Posted 28 January 2020 - 11:40 PM

Sounds strange, but there have been times while I am working on swords that feels like the sword is being guided by another set of hands..... :quiet:  :ph34r:


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Posted 29 January 2020 - 12:07 AM

I have spirits in my kitchen too! They go by the names of Jack Daniels, Johnny Walker, and Jim Beam. Good drinking buddies too I might add!


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Posted 29 January 2020 - 02:47 AM

It's not that expensive, does that mean that the owner is just trying to get rid of it? I personally don't want to risk it in case there really is something attached to the sword.
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Posted 29 January 2020 - 02:48 AM

I doubt that only Muramasa blades can be cursed. Anything can be cursed in my opinion.
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Posted 29 January 2020 - 03:09 AM

I hope someone doesn't use this to kill a person and try to blame the sword and use the sale page as evidence.

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Posted 29 January 2020 - 03:10 AM

If it's not as described, you just put in a claim with eBay and get a full refund! Hahahaha.

I think I'm more worried about the choice of comic sans, which combined with the 'cursed' sword makes this feel like the set up for an episode of The Simpsons.
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Posted 29 January 2020 - 04:54 AM

So if there no spirit attached you think I can get a refund?
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Posted 29 January 2020 - 11:35 AM

Does anyone remember the thread on here with the NMB member who thought that a war-time blade he had was haunted?


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Posted 29 January 2020 - 11:40 AM

Does anyone remember the thread on here with the NMB member who thought that a war-time blade he had was haunted?

This one: http://www.militaria...=+battle +scars


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Posted 29 January 2020 - 11:49 AM

So if there no spirit attached you think I can get a refund?

Item returned --> Not as described :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


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Posted 29 January 2020 - 03:34 PM

As I was discussing a sword I own with very highly rated Togishi, at one point during our conversation, he looked at me in a very serious manner an said " You do realize these swords have a spirit ." I was somewhat stunned and replied, " I suspect they very well could."

 

I have in my possession Japanese swords from Koto to Showa and prefer not spending a great deal of time dwelling on what they may have been involved in.

 

 I  think it was Dave R. that mentioned once, " It's a very good thing they can't talk,"

 

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Posted 30 January 2020 - 05:08 AM

Steve,

 

I can relate to your hands episode,  as i checkmated a professor who was 10 levels above me in chess in seven moves. It was as if a spirit was moving my hand. He wanted to play me another game and I politely, said, no thank you.  One other time, I acquired a tachi and didn't know who made it, and reached  over picking up Fujishiro koto edition, opening it haphazardly to the page of the exact sword I had ( full signed nakago)  of a kamakura blade. Peace.

 

 

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Posted 30 January 2020 - 07:33 AM

Item returned --> Not as described :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


Totally! Lol!
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Posted 30 January 2020 - 09:04 AM

I wonder how many of the koto swords if not most have a gruesome past glued to them. All the stories you read about these wonderous old blades that are super sharp and have magical powers, i believe not all are made up. They have had to come from someone who experienced or seen something. They say bigfoot is a myth yet I beg to differ..

Interesting page with myths or not myths..

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Posted 30 January 2020 - 09:09 AM

Thankfully I haven't felt any type of presence with the blades in my collection..
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Posted 30 January 2020 - 09:17 AM

I wonder if this sword belongs to him or his great great uncle..

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 09:45 AM

If you are serious about nihonto, I think one needs to recognise the spiritual aspects of Japanese sword culture that have evolved over time, even if you don't subscribe. After all, many pieces from the start are created as amulets or a form of spiritual as well as possibly physical protection. Look at the state of mind expected of smiths, and as noted elsewhere, the moment of yakiire is when the 'spirit' of the sword is born.
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Posted 12 February 2020 - 12:55 PM

As a complete atheist, I can’t believe in gods, ghosts, spirits or magic, but I can recognize the fact that people who made and carried them did, and as such, owe respect to their beliefs and memory. 
 

But guys, 21st century here! Swords are a feat of craftsmanship, but in the end, they are the result of metallurgic skills and superior craftsmanship ability, not magic. In the end, it’s just metal.

 

It is well known Muramasa was also used as a political tool and the Tokugawa family had Muramasa’s in their collection. Yet, I agree that these swords must have seen some gruesome stuff, and let’s face it, that’s also part of their twisted appeal. Sometimes, I wish I’d meet those who’ve owned them before me, listen to their tale and tell them to be relieved, that their precious sword is in loving, caring hands.


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 04:17 PM

I have spirits in my kitchen too! They go by the names of Jack Daniels, Johnny Walker, and Jim Beam. Good drinking buddies too I might add!

 Me too Chris. I met my two spirits during my 2 years on Bougainville Island in the Solomons, SW Pacific. In fact I brought them home to Western Australia with me. Now, week about, I spend an hour or so with each of them on the verandah at sun-down.. One is called Hankey Bannister...he is a nice mild guy (from Britain) who lives in a bottle in my Liquor cabinet. His friend Bundaberg Rum lives in the bottle next to him and I also spend an hour or so with Bundy on the verandah on Friday evenings. I know some folks will turn up their nose, but Bundy and Hankey and I always share a coke when we get together...ah, those are good relaxed times. Although we often think about the sunsets we shared on the beach at nearby Guadalcanal back in the day, we never think about the spirits that "live" in blades.

Regards from me, Bundey and Hankey. 


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 11:20 PM

A friend who owns a Muramasa is telling storys of the spirits in it all the time.

I had it in hand once but i think i was too excited to feel it.  :rotfl:


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 11:23 PM

Well, the man who wounded Ieyasu’s father certainly did it because of the spirit! He was dead drunk! (And after that, just dead! :))


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Posted 13 February 2020 - 05:44 AM

I've handled a number of Muramasa blades, but, even as a long-time sword-swinger, I felt nothing supernatural, malign or otherwise.


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Posted 13 February 2020 - 04:23 PM

It's a topic that could easily spin off. I'll start one to expand this issue on Izakaya.




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