Brian, don't worry nobody is making anyone feel worse I bought the piece because I did my due diligence and im confident in what I bought. Please let everyone comment in any way they would like I welcome it. The reason i made this post was to hear what people had to say about it and i respect everyones opinion as long as some sort of reference is provided with their statement. To some people 13k maybe a lot of money and so they maybe in shock as to how someome can spend that amount on a unpapered bringback, but to some 13k is 13 dollars and it's not much of a risk. this wouldn't be the first sword I've bought without papers as a matter fact I prefer to buy swords without papers and all the big collectors do to but not many would openly tell you that. No problem ken and no problem brian I will combine my posts im very sorry i didnt realize that It bothers people that i dont use the same post for all my thoughts after all the internet is infinite space, i just didnt realize that everytime write something every one gets a ping. Yaz I'm not sure what you mean by getting so heated I'm not sure if your referring to me? If so heated about what? Also i don't know why your comparing the mei to only one reference if you do that with all the swords you potentially want to buy one can only Imagine how many good swords you let slip thru your hands. I'm not going to explain what I explained before either way. The sword has to go to Japan so we will see if it's shoshin or not. But I appreciate your effort in the drawings yaz. When you sign you name on a piece of paper were not talking about tamahagane now is your signuture 100 percent the same everytime? I bet the answer is no, try chizeling into metal and have the same exact precise result every single time. I could put up 30 different swords by kiyomaro that all have different signutures and different writing styles. You simply cannot judge a mei from 1 reference. There's a panel of judges when your sword goes thru shinsha just in case one judge may see something the other does not although they are all professional they reach a verdict together based on a huge library of references. Either way at this point its every ones opinion because neither you or me are in the nthk or nbthk. All we can do when we buy a sword is refer to references we have at hand and make an educated decision based on that. At least that's the way I buy my swords and I do pretty well at it.
Yaz if you have a moment on your hand please take a look at the pictures I posted at 1143pm.
Brian what are your thoughts on the date and mei would like to hear your opinion on this.
Attached is probably the best explanation to the science of gimei artists. Might help for the future.