Nickupero Posted August 9, 2017 Report Posted August 9, 2017 Hi Guys, figured this was an interesting one to take a jab at. It may not be your taste being Kogarasu-maru style but there are a couple interesting features on this piece that make it interesting. What period and which school/ or more precisely which smith could have made this one? Nakago is Mumei. Much of the reason for this kantei is a feature I'd like to point out which I'll do so once we tally up a few opinions. Nagasa is 66cm with a Sori of 1.2 cm Good luck 3 Quote
Nickupero Posted August 9, 2017 Author Report Posted August 9, 2017 and a few more hamon shots... 1 Quote
Ken-Hawaii Posted August 9, 2017 Report Posted August 9, 2017 I've always wondered how they do noto with a blade like that. Ken 1 Quote
Guest Rayhan Posted August 9, 2017 Report Posted August 9, 2017 Really a long shot here but say.... Hosokawa Masayoshi..... Quote
Brian Posted August 9, 2017 Report Posted August 9, 2017 Just gut feel...shin shinto, made to look o-suriage as an utsushi of an earlier sword. Quote
Fuuten Posted August 9, 2017 Report Posted August 9, 2017 I'm going with Hosokawa school. Sorry can't be any more specific as it would be a pure guess. Quote
Lee Bray Posted August 9, 2017 Report Posted August 9, 2017 I've always wondered how they do noto with a blade like that. Ken Carefully... Kiyondo. Gut feel based on the fine jigane and control in the hamon. Gorgeous sword. Quote
Jean Posted August 9, 2017 Report Posted August 9, 2017 Not my field of interest but for the fun and to vary the answers, I'll say gendai, Gassan school, Sadakazu or Sadakatsu Quote
Ray Singer Posted August 9, 2017 Report Posted August 9, 2017 There seems to be a weak utsuri, which Naotane and his son could consistently pull off. I looked for uzumaki, but could not be sure. Quote
Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini Posted August 9, 2017 Report Posted August 9, 2017 The color of the Nakago, and looks very healty... To me looks like a young beautiful woman in the attempt to appear much older... Shinshinto Gassan school. ? Beautiful. 1 Quote
BIG Posted August 9, 2017 Report Posted August 9, 2017 I am with Ray, Naotane school sue bizen utsushimono... Best Regards Quote
Okiiimo Posted August 9, 2017 Report Posted August 9, 2017 The sunagashi reminds me very much of a Taneaki (student of Naotane) blade I have. I'm not sure about the three mekugi ana for such a recent blade though - implying older? Lovely blade regardless of who made it! Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted August 9, 2017 Report Posted August 9, 2017 One of the Bizen Osafune Yokoyama guys. Maybe Sukenaga. Quote
Nickupero Posted August 9, 2017 Author Report Posted August 9, 2017 Some very good opinions.... Thank you all who participated so far. All bets in? I'll give it a tad longer for whoever else might want to add their 2 cents. 1 Quote
Vermithrax16 Posted August 9, 2017 Report Posted August 9, 2017 I wish I could even guess, but really fun watching very smart folks add guesses. Love these threads. Quote
Prewar70 Posted August 9, 2017 Report Posted August 9, 2017 Ok so I feel like playing even though my knowledge is very limited but how better to learn. I can't guess as to school or smith so I will stick to period and what I am seeing. Hamon seems more recent shin Shinto. Jigane/jihada not the best pics but doesn't have a Koto feel to me. Nakago besides being beautiful, looks old and suriage, with several mekugiana, however, description says its ubu. So I am going with shin Shinto period. Quote
Shugyosha Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 My first thoughts were shinshinto Gassan and I haven't had any better ones so that's my bid. Quote
Alex A Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 Difficult, if the blade is unaltered then someone did one hell of a job as a utsushi. (but maybe they did?) The steel patina changes along the nakago, more pitted towards the end, even in the bo-hi. The way the bo-hi is cut off. I'm finding it difficult to believe the nakago is unaltered, leaning towards suriage. As for school, struggling, but best I can come up with is Gassan Sadakazu, but may well be a bit older, I think Quote
Gunome Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 I would go shinshinto, Kiyondo or Kiyomaro Quote
b.hennick Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 Hiyama Enshin has made several blades in that shape. A little added patina and there you have it. Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 Definitely reminds me of Gassan school, but I'm not confident enough to name a particular one. Quote
Okiiimo Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 I cheated and found the answer to this kantei quiz. Quote
Nickupero Posted August 10, 2017 Author Report Posted August 10, 2017 Sneaky of you Allan Some of you hit the nail on the head, answer is Gassan Sadakazu, jidai is Meiji period. Congrats to Jean and Alex Both John's came very close, along with Tom. Barry before submission to the NTHK-NPO Hayama Enshin was my my guess since he was known to make a few of these and well balanced in the various traditions, but I also thought it could have been a late shin-shinto work like some of you guessed (possibly the Yokoyama school). Like some of you the Nakago threw me off, the Jigane was certainly indication of a late Edo Utushi and the 3 Mekugi-ana looks like it could have been re-mounted. The Mekugi-ana closest to the Machi appears to have been double punched or elongated but I think the koshirae that was commissioned for this piece (which is absolutely stunning btw) is original to when the blade was made so a lot of time went into making that nakago look like it was older. Thank you to everybody that participated, sorry if I left anyone out. you can see a few pics of the complete set. 6 Quote
Guest Rayhan Posted August 10, 2017 Report Posted August 10, 2017 Thanks Nick! I was waiting anxiously for the answer:) Atari to those who got it and a great learning experience! 1 Quote
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