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窮則独善其身達則兼濟天下 Something like: In times of plenty, the virtuous man strives to help others. In times of need, the virtuous man strives to help/improve himself.

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Original photos of unidentified General officers:

This thread unearthed a lot of interesting examples. There are no Goto ones so far. I only have one Shi-shi and it is by Goto Kenjo. My particular shi-shi seems to have the Zoomies.... Dog people will know what I mean.

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small update for those interested, I finally received my tsuba and I am absolutely in awe about the craftmanship. The pictures don't do it justice at all. It has easily become my favourite tsuba, so thank you all again for your help! Also, I just found this very similar example - apparently papered to be mito school? However I like mine a lot more... (and I did not need to pay 550.000 Yen )

Nosyudo, 濃州堂 One of the highest quality iaito manufacturers in Japan, they are based in Seki (Gifu Prefecture) and much-loved by Westerners. https://nosyudo.jp/ Their English catalog: https://nosyudo.jp/catalogs/EnglishCatalog2025.pdf

Thanks everybody for the reply and the feedback. Especially for the eirakudo listing. I was sceptical on the information given, I´m not able to read or translate the nbthk paper nor the sayagaki myself, but i asked several AI to do so, and it seems to not match what they described in the listing. And @atm @Rivkin pointed out correctly, is very misleading and not strenghtening the trust in buying this. Aoi on the other hand offered sayagaki from Mr. Tanobe sensei at a little extra cost, and they seemed more honest with the information given. I thought this would make that blade a little more interesting. They said their attribution to fuyuhiro (1st gen) is from their experience and not from the nbthk paper when i asked, and they trust that Mr Tanobe sensei would agree with their estimate. As for budget, i was looking at blades between 0 and 1600000 yen. So there will be something left for import taxes, shipping and vat. which adds up quickly. Wish would be early edo period and below (muromachi, nanbokucho..). This probably already limits the amount of nihonto available, even more so if you look at my "wishlist" of specs. If it came with a nice shirasaya and a well made sayagaki i´d be very happy. I´m aware that there are modern smiths too which make very nice blades, sometimes with soshu influence. Those would be the nicest probably because of their overall condition and less polishing and scratches and such over the decades. Still i like having a piece with history in hand, just to imagine what it might have seen over the hundreds of years it was appreciated by other individuals. Anyway, in november last year i was in Japan for the first time, so i went to every place that had swords on display that i could find. Saw a lot of nice blades, held none made tons of pictures and videos, but quickly realized that the blades who i would desire most, are likely out of budget. I found out that my taste in anything quickly turns up with the more expensive items... I´ve been collecting knives for years and oh you can get very pricey with them as well depending on materials and craftsmenship and so on. Until now, i have a tanto without papers from aoi, and a yari (also no papers) from touken komachi which is in the process of getting a koshirae made. I´m trying to get familiar with all the terms of nihonto through reading: The connoisseur´s book of Japanese swords and so on. https://archive.org/details/connoisseursbook0000naga/page/n11/mode/1up Anyway, just by looking at blades i quickly realized that i like: Kissaki: chu-kissaki and better o-kissaki Jihada: mokume-hada or itame-hada Hamon: Hitatsura, Midare, choji and variations of those Lenght: 66cm plus (just a personal preference) I guess i´m looking at the usual suspects online. I´ve also checked in with unique japans mailing list, but missed 3 blades already, because the seem to sell within hours or even minutes after release, or are simply out of budget. Probably because of my limited budget and desired specs, nihonto like that don´t show up that often online, and if they do they sell quickly. Hence i started looking at other nihonto that tick some boxes and are as close to what i desire as they get. Thanks again for reading and your education.

This sort of obfuscation is surprisingly common on Japanese dealer websites, more so than the English dealers who usually try to educate the buyer (eBay/auction sellers excepted, obviously). They'll put some verbiage about the most famous/sought after smith in the line that the blade belongs to, and leave it to the buyer to realize that the stated era the blade is from doesn't match said smith (or to read the attached papers and note the specified era or generation).

Patrice, It's far too early to tell. In the Netherlands you have access to some real expertise. Go slowly, clean nothing apart from a light coating of sewing machine oil on the blade. About the peg/mekugi, support the sword horizontally such that the handle is particularly firmly supported. With a pin punch or similar round tool slightly smaller than the peg, use a hammer to gently hit the peg. Gently is the keyword and do this from each side in turn watching for movement. One side will be the correct, ever-so slightly smaller original side to tap from, but it may be difficult to tell. Keep working gently and the peg may slowly move. A good indicator is that the habaki (the 'collar' next to the guard /tsuba) is a blue/black colour indicating it is shakudo, or a shakudo foil cover. Others will pop in with more advice, I'm sure. Read the extensive Board articles on care before doing too much. Knowledge is your best ally here. Regards, BaZZa, aka Barry Thomas.

Welcome to NMB, @Harlekin2xs. If you like Soshu blades, I'm not sure that I'd be focused on the two you've identified. The Kaneuji is not the same as Shizu Kaneuji of Soshu den (Eirakudo's description is a bit confusing on that point) and its hamon looks very one-dimensional to me. Good quality Soshu has a three-dimensional hamon with lots of activity inside the hamon. What is your budget? Knowing that might help us point you toward blades that better fit your collecting interest. If you are new to this hobby, many advise to take your time before purchasing a sword. That's because many (myself included) have regretted our first sword purchase as we gained knowledge. Taking time to study swords, especially in person, and increasing your knowledge of swords is invaluable to making smart collecting decisions and finding what truly appeals to you. There are lots of swords out there, so you have plenty of time to find the right first purchase.

It is rare and interesting to me to see the menuki signed on the front like that. Cool exception to the rule.

I would like to share a lovelyset of tosogu by Yokoya Tomotake featuring Shishi play fighting. It’s a great example of katakiribori workmanship, which is done to a high level. One intriguing thing I have noticed while studying the set is that the carvings of the Chinese Lions resemble the paintings from a pair of screens by Hanabusa Itcho, which is in The Met collection, I’ve attached some comparison photos. I have read that Hanabusa Itcho was a close friend of Somin Yokotani. I wonder if the screens were used by Yokoya Tomotake when composing this set of tosogu.

Not sure if this has been posted, but I just visited the Juyo Token exhibition in Tokyo today and there were some amazing blades. Here is the list they are showing: https://www.touken.or.jp/Portals/0/pdf/english/（英語））第71回重要刀剣等新指定展目録.pdf They had a Hizen blade done in a killer hitatsura temper that was over 94cm nagasa! Absolutely stunning....but my favorite was probably the Yasumitsu. There was also an Awataguchi Kuniyoshi that belongs to Nicholas Benson that is being submitted to TokuJu, even thought its listed under Robert Benson. Also Awatguchi Hisakuni. Amazing to see 36 Juyo from all different smiths for future reference.

Hi Janne, Great feedback. I implemented the report feature, which also lets user ask for new features, report item data bugs, or artisan data bugs, or general bugs. Top navigation bar: Item card: Artist/School page: And good idea on the dimension filtering. I added it for Nagasa, this is the easiest. Weight, I'm afraid is not documented consistently, more than 90% missing data. Motohaba and sakihaba I would say are of marginal utility. Note that there are some data errors on some items, as is to be expected. Best, Hoshi

I visited two days ago and was surprised to see that some blades and fittings which would barely have qualified for Tokuho 5-6 years ago were able to pass Juyo. Of course, there were some great pieces as well.

We don't have any rule against discussing prices I would guess this would sell for around $700 to $800 here, maybe a bit more on eBay, but you lose on fees. That's just a wild guess.

Wow That was fast Thank you

For 1.6M yen you'll have plenty of good options for a first sword matching that list, even if you just limit yourself to koto Soshu. Take as much time as you need to better understand the market and your own preferences, and don't be afraid to post in the WTB forum here as well; there are many members who have, or have access to, blades that might interest you within those parameters and budget.

Hi, before you buy online, i would advise to visit the Japan Art Fair (https://www.japanartfair.com) . There are a lot of Dealers from around the world and you can have a look on the blades in real. Regards Oli

I have been looking at this appealing work by Yamaoka Tesshu, whose calligraphy is consistent, but highly idiosyncratic. The large "One Word Barrier" is "窮 (poverty/poor)", rendered in an almost pictographic form that is rare for Yamaoka, but I cannot make out the rest of the inscription. There is some water damage, but I've never seen such an inscription done by this otherwise prolific artist who often produced many versions of the same theme. Thanks.

Thanks so much, Steve. You are absolutely spot on. Turns out that "When poor, one should cultivate one's own virtue; when successful, one should benefit all under heaven," comes from Mencius, Book 7, Part 1, Chapter 9, which reads: "Therefore, a scholar does not lose righteousness in poverty, nor does he stray from the Way in success. When poor, he does not lose righteousness; therefore, a scholar holds possession of himself. Those who achieve success do not stray from the Way, therefore the people are not disappointed. In ancient times, those who were successful brought benefits to the people; those who were unsuccessful cultivated themselves and made their virtues known to the world. When poor, one should cultivate one's own virtue; when successful, one should benefit all under heaven." Yamaoka would have studied Confucian thought, as did all well-educated samurai.

My Japanese skills are meager, but both postings are great examples of obfuscation. Eirakudo sword is papered to Seki Kaneuji. Very indirect relation to Nambokucho Kaneuji, who dominates the description. Late Muromachi work, its ok but a bit bland and ambitious. Fuyuhiro - nowhere it says this is the first generation. Yes, its probably Tensho period work. Again its not real quality, but beginner friendly in terms of being easy to appreciate, showy.

Hi Patrice, Your sword is a legit WWII Japanese officer's Type 98 sword. To those who study WWII and Japanese swords, they are all valuable and worth preservation. Monetary value can vary greatly depending upon condition of the sword, and sometimes due to the way it was made, and the smith that made it. That's one reason we are all interested in seeing the nakago (tang). As a family heirloom, and in honor of your grandfather, I think it's worth putting some time into restoring it to some degree, like having the handle (tsuka) rewrapped. Having the blade restored, via professional polish, depends on you. Many collectors like to keep a sword in the condition it came to them, calling it the "Life of the Sword." Others like to take the time and effort to return their swords to their intended beauty. I spent 2 years finding missing parts to restore my dad's sword, and even spent the $2,200 to have it polished. But that was a personal choice. Some before and after shots:

Just finished with my measurements. On Ohmura’s site, his specification table states that the measurements are approximate. Although, I feel my sword is far enough outside the specifications to say it’s probably not a combination sword? I’d be curious to hear others interpretations. I will attach the table below of the combination sword specifications. http://ohmura-study.net/210.html The measurements of my sword: Total without scabbard = 845mm Total with scabbard = 875mm Nagasa = 695mm Motokasane = 5.5mm Sakikasane = 3mm Motohaba = 22mm Sakihaba = 13.5mm Kissaki = 23mm Handle, from pommel to lip of guard = 139mm. Handle, from pommel to end of quillion?/finial? = 160mm. Side-by-side with the dress sword it was bundled with, it’s slightly shorter. The handle is slightly longer and larger. The engravings are slightly deeper and more detailed. The brass guard appears slightly more thick. I had told myself I wouldn’t get any more of these sabers after my field grade find. Funny how things change -Sam

Shameless plug, I need to find a home for these beautiful beasties if anyone is interested, click to zoom...they are currently over in the 'for sale' section. Hi Bruno, great tsuba, did you see these on ebay - https://ebay.us/m/FwRBtN - looks like a nice match.

same one

Another tsuba of mine.

Hello Everyone! I´m new to the board and on the hunt for my first nihonto. Currently i think about these 2: https://eirakudo.shop/521344 https://www.aoijapan.com/katana-fuyuhiro-the-first-gennbthk-tokubetsu-hozon-token-consignment-sale/ What do you think about these? I know i´m drawn to soshu style blades and bigger kissaki, nice jihada, chaotic hamons with a lot going on. Just from a collector perspective which one would you pick and why? Thanks in advance, be gentle with a newbie Chris

Just to give you some examples fo visual things that i get attracted to: https://www.giapponeserie.com/nihonto5.htm This one ticks a lot of boxes. Just not the period and it doesn´t come with papers. Plus, i see something that looks like a crack starting at the mune machi, a silver line visible on both sides. So i believe that might be why it is not papered... again i might be completely wrong. https://www.nipponto.co.jp/swords2/KT221833.htm the pictures that show it under light, the blade itself faint and in need of a polish. but i might be wrong with that. https://www.nipponto.co.jp/swords11/NT334721.htm Hamon under light looks pale, but jihada and the hamon line itself looks nice..

Hello to all, Please forgive my recent multiple posts of less-than-fascinating swords: it's just that I am glad to have finally discovered a forum that can provide good information regarding my small collection. I ask that you view these images of a long wakizashi which I purchased a few months back. I would appreciate any and all comments that you might provide; especially if you have an opinion as to possible School, Smith, or Period of manufacture. Nagasa = 23.75" Nakago = 6" Width at Munemachi = 28mm Width at Yokote = 20mm Thanks for looking, James A

Thank you from me too. The tool is fantastic. It would be nice if: a) I could send a feature request via the interface. :D b) I could filter search results by length, weight, etc parameters. Some of the items don't have this, but some do and for myself this is quite crucial information. For example, I would love to see items that are Koto, longer than 2.5 shaku and under 800 grams (blade). Even if this would not be quite fool proof thanks to missing info, it would help to limit the many options and there could always be a toggle like "Show items without corresponding information: Y/N".

Miranda: We don't generally do valuations here, however I can give you some info for your description. I believe the sword is signed Kanesada saku kore (respectfully made by Kanesada). The stamp above the signature is a Seki Cutlery inspection stamp. It also indicates the sword is semi-forged but not traditionally made. Traditionally made swords are made from tamahagane steel and are water quenched. The painted numbers (762) are assembly numbers. In addition, the fittings are not high quality and are missing parts. The tassel is also missing. This makes your sword slightly less valuable on the collector market but still has military/historical value. Folks on ebay tend to list these for crazy prices. I recommend using ebay completed auctions and search for "ww2 Japanese sword". Find similar examples and it will give you an indication as to what these actually sell for. John C.

These little cuts into the ana suggest the mei was cut after the ana was formed. Could be another piece of evidence depending on the process used by Kotetsu or Kajihei. John C.

Its a rare case where I would ask someone to show this blade to Tanobe sensei before doing anything else. The forging might be good quality also.

I keep seeing this book show up on ebay but can't seem to find it anywhere else. Not sure if it is new or just new to me. I don't mind paying for books, but the price seems high and I am unsure if there is any new information compared to the Sano museum book on Akasaka tsuba. Anyone have the book shown below or know where to get it for a reasonable price? Thanks, Lou

Jean my bad. I corrected my error. I already have the Sano Museum book. Was wondering about this new Akasaka book.

Yes, who ever chiseled the mei did a good job trying to copy Kotetsu but fell short on the small details. You can also see the difference between the shoshin and the Kajihei cut mei as well but it’s far closer than the sword I own.

Yes - that's 義 gi/yoshi

Hi Adam, you should post this in the WTB forum. Tom

I sure looks like it is. 義 = gi = righteousness; justice; morality; honor; loyalty.

New user’s first post.

As Barry said, the peg can easily replaced and has no monetary value. I’ve had success using tweezers to pick at the wood until it splinters and then you can remove it piece by piece.

The peg may be bent from someone trying to knock the handle off without first removing the peg. Not uncommon and I had one recently. You may have to destroy the peg (mekugi) to remove the handle (tsuka). Making a new peg from a bamboo chopstick is a sometimes necessity. BaZZa.

Interestingly, the tanto describe by Kanzan that needed additional research may have been this very one. As @Lewis Bpointed out above from the later part of the article. Kanzan mentions a Genkyo 2 dated tanto with the Kamakura Junin Yukimitsu signature as one that required additional research. As you pointed out, it would be cool to be a fly on the wall in the shinsa deliberation when they discussed this very tanto.

Has this appeared before? https://www.tessier-sarrou.com/lot/116199/15882152-koto-wakizashi-epoque-muromachi-1333-1573-signe-mei You need to search through the images.

Similar ones to this piece in Japanese publications are labelled Satsuma or Oda school

These are two phrases that originate from the Zhuangzi (莊子) and are related to the Daoist concept of the spirit. A rough literal translation would be something along the lines of 萬物服 = all things submit 一心㝎 = a stable heart and soul