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Thanks guys. This one threw me for a loop. It helps to get some knowledgable views outside the peanut gallery that is Facebook Much appreciated, -Sam

I think the blade is real, but the heavily modified nature of the whole piece made me more suspect than hopeful. With the steel tsuba and very corroded clip, and the pierced ito with the mekugi like the pattern 2 transitional variants. The big exaggerated sarute is typical of many fakes too. I’m on the fence about a lot of it, primarily the tsuka/sarute. But you could be totally right; it could be an authentic but heavily repaired/modified example

Really bummed I won’t be able to make it to this show to see the Yamashiro exhibit. One of these years I hope to attend. Still got to do both the Chicago, and Orlando shows to complete my USA sword show circuit Already booked SF though, so there’s something to look forward to -Sam

Here is one that was recently shared to the facebook military swords of Japan group. A tricky one, but look closely. Wrong tsuba for the #, wrong large sarute, mekugi in the pattern2 placement. I believe it may be a mix of real and fake parts. What are your thoughts and observations? -Sam

You’re always welcome to share photos here of your sword. I think we’ve got some members from the Indiana area. Also, it might be worth contacting the Indiana token kai https://indianatokenkai.wixsite.com/indiana-token-kai Best of luck, -Sam

Bummer! Maybe you can locate it on the ground somewhere. If it just fell out easily, it probably was unthreaded or possibly damaged. You can find a replacement or a copy. Not ideal, but the screw is a pretty minor part so I wouldn't sweat it too much. If you were to sell it, I'd just disclose that you replaced the missing mekugi screw. I don't know anything about this particular seller, but this is the part you're looking for: https://www.ebay.com/itm/196866959064?

My apologies, I see now that was a rather cryptic statement on my part. Nothing to worry about, in my opinion. I recently started cataloging type 95 swords that I encounter. I don’t have any others that have those three stamps in that general serial number range. Most around 117k that I have listed have stamps from Tokyo arsenal and Suya sword company. I believe it’s simply because my list is not complete or all encompassing. Your stamps indicate that it was made in nagoya arsenal by the seki sword co. Kiipu’s warrelics link helps explain that a little better then I can. It’s a rabbit hole of info learning about these. I see these swords sell between $750 and $1500 lately. All the best, -Sam

You've got the stamps correct : Seki Corporate Logo, Nagoya 名 , and the Kokura four stacked cannonballs. The kokura stacked cannonball stamp changed in September 1942, so your sword was presumably made prior to that date.. My cataloging and knowledge is far from complete; but your serial number and stamps stand alone on my list - making it difficult to compare to others. That being said, it looks good and in nice condition. A nice looking example, Thanks for sharing! -Sam

Thanks for those photos Steve, While I am no expert, and being able to identify Mumei blades is challenging for me. It REALLY reminds me of a Type 98 Sue Bizen (late muromachi period, bizen school) blade that I once owned. Below are photos of the one that I had. I sold it a while back. Therefore, I'd put my money on Sue Bizen, . https://nihonto.com/a-brief-study-of-bizen-blades-of-the-muromachi-era/ Other, more experienced opinions may vary, -Sam

There may be (or may not be) stamps on the FUCHI, which is the collar piece on the top of the handle, under the Tsuba. It looks like your FUCHI is copper, so there should be some stamps visible. I think I can just barely see one of them on your first images. Here's a photo example of the stamps I am interested in - (Not my photo. I pulled this image from google.)

Cool indeed! These swords are pretty neat, and have become pretty desirable to collectors. Yours has the (NA = 名) NAGOYA STAMP near the serial number , meaning it's a Nagoya arsenal sword. Judging by your serial number, without seeing the stamps, and comparing on my list. Closest date range I can guestimate would be around 1942... Keeping the blade very lightly oiled (sewing machine oil / tsubaki oil / light pure clear unscented mineral oil) will help prevent rust from forming in a non invasive and safe way. Thank you for sharing, All the best, -Sam

Hi Rob, welcome to the forum! Very cool sword. What you have is not a Type 98 - but rather a Type 95 NCO Shin Gunto These swords were machine made between 1937 and 1945, yours is the "Pattern 3" version, with Aluminum handle and Steel Tsuba. If you can show me the serial number, and the stamps on the copper fuchi, I can likely share some more information about it's manufacture and maybe give you a rough date estimate. All the best, -Sam

To address the original question; and apologies if I am preaching to the choir here... I see areas of O-Mokume amongst a lot of Itame. It's my understanding that mokume is accompanied by itame. From Marcus Sesko's site: https://markussesko.com/2015/05/13/kantei-2-jigane-jihada-2/ "Again, I for my part say for the time being that a hada is itame unless there are some obvious burls and then it might be itame mixed with mokume. So please don’t get too much confused about when it is itame and when it is mokume as it is in many cases a mix anyway." And below, an excerpt from Facts and Fundamentals:

Flexing my moderator privileges, and deleting the off-topic back-and-forth arguments. Let's keep name calling off the forum; whether that be in private message or public. Let's stick to the topic at hand, and remember why we're here. Differences of views/opinions/experience and observations is no excuse for hostilities. -Sam

Hi @Jammil, cool sword, and welcome to the forum! Admittedly, I'm a bit less privy to the late-war wood handle variants - I know a lot more about the aluminum handle versions. That being said: Your Type 95 NCO sword is known as the "Pattern 5" version, with the wooden handle (sometimes called a pineapple handle), and metal scabbard. These were manufactured late in the war as resources in Japan became more scarce. I think, conservatively, your sword would date between ~1944 and 1945... B29 bombers took out production by April 1945; and the war ended in the pacific in September. Your blade has the SEKI stamp ( 関 ), from the "Seki Supervisory Unit of Nagoya Army Arsenal". I'd take Conway's and Bruce’s advice about restoration. I am curious though, does it have a matching serial number on the scabbard mouth? Also, is that a silvery paint on the sword? Or is it an eggshell whiteish color? Looks like silver spray paint from the photos, but it's hard to tell. Pretty common to find these NCO swords with an after-war paint job. Thanks for sharing your sword with us, I hope I answered some questions for you. Condolences about your late grandfather, All the best, -Sam