PNSSHOGUN Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 Unfortunately this sword was likely stolen out of the box during shipping. There is a chance it fell out but I do not have high hopes. The sword is signed "Bizen kuni jū osafune sukesada-saku" & dated Daiei August 1526. Nagasa is roughly 25inches, OAL roughly 36-38 inches. Mounted in good early style mounts with pierced Tsuba & gloss saya. A distinct silver Kamon is on the Kabuotgane. Please contact me if you see this sword listed or offered again. 2 1 3 Quote
vajo Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 Oh no! What a beauty John. I will keep my eyes open. Quote
Alex A Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 Bad news, hoping you get it back. Many eyes will keep a lookout. Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted November 4, 2021 Author Report Posted November 4, 2021 This was before it was sent: After 10 days in the expert hands of USPS/Aus Post 5 Quote
dwmc Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 Damn...This is precisely the reason I am reluctant to send any of my swords anywhere by mail. Therefore, in a sense crippling me in pursuit of improving my collection by polish, shinsa, etc. Insurance, ok fine, but does it truly compensate for loss. Hopefully, as mentioned it somehow came out of packaging, (by looks of photo above) and is now in the possession of a Postal Supervisor waiting to be returned to rightful owner... Hopefully turns out for the best, Dave M. Quote
robinalexander Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 John sorry to hear this,..everyones nightmare but a worthwhile notification on your part. Do you know which country it was last (guaranteed) to be in. Or alternatively, which country do you think it went missing in? Rob Quote
GrozaB Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 Oh man... I can feel your pain. I had few items missing in the mail last year. And now I know why: https://patch.com/texas/dallas-ftworth/texas-postal-contractors-arrested-charged-after-8-000-pieces-stolen-mail-found?fbclid=IwAR1A_tx8iizRxC2uJMvOF8DK48M_xJn0ZBBUd7RhTBDYdWImDZsVvrxE1rY Quote
ChrisW Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 "Fell out," is that the excuse the USPS gives these days?? These thieves/thugs need to be caught and given the sternest possible sentence. 1 Quote
Brian Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 Apple Air Tags. For the $30, activate and kling-wrap it to the tsuka or saya. Make the expense part of the deal. Won't solve all cases, but accidental losses should be minimized and theft....well maybe you get a ping when it's at his house. I just ordered 2, and am going to make them part of any deal over a certain value. 1 Quote
dwmc Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 John, I mentioned your sword loss to my wife (30 yrs with USPS) and yes there are definitely thieves. However, is that your tape shown in the photo used to repair the box. She said that type tape would never be used by USPS for repair of a package. Identifying which postal service uses that particular type dark duct tape could at least narrow the search somewhat. Again, good luck and hope it shows up, Dave M. Quote
Grey Doffin Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 Not to minimize the loss or make excuses for improper handling but don't you think a sturdier package was called for? This was shipped in a priority triangular tube made of standard strength cardboard, something I wouldn't trust for a sword across the state, let alone across an ocean. I always use stout cardboard tubes with secure plastic end caps for shipping my swords. Their being round means they are unlikely to have other packages stacked on top. Grey 4 Quote
GrozaB Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, Grey Doffin said: This was shipped in a priority triangular tube made of standard strength cardboard, Actually those triangle boxes are pretty rugged. Geometrically triangle is way stronger, then rectangular box. with proper padding they are pretty secure. But again - it is no packaging USPS or UPS can't destroy... I had package once with clear truck track over it... Luckily inside cardboard box was a pelican case containing the actual dueling pistol... 1 Quote
Michael 67 Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 I'm very sorry, John. I know that feeling. My hideaki has disappeared to this day. I wish you that your sword comes back. Quote
Ken-Hawaii Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 I'll keep an eye out, John. A remarkably large number of stolen blades pass through Hawaii, & my sword mentor has helped with their recovery. Quote
Utopianarian Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 I am sorry for your loss John. I will keep an eye out for it. That one was a beauty. Sooner or later it may turn up. The nihonto community is a tight knit one. Quote
Surfson Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 So sorry to hear this and I hope you recover it. I do have to echo what Grey said for any of you who might ship a sword. I buy the heavy cardboard tubes with plastic ends. They are incredibly strong - a full grown person could stand on them and they won't crush. Quote
GrozaB Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 26 minutes ago, Surfson said: a full grown person could stand on them and they won't crush If USPS want to destroy something... 1 1 1 6 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted November 4, 2021 Author Report Posted November 4, 2021 Thanks for the kind words all, with regards to the packaging the black duct tape was used by the shipper. The sloppily applied clear tape was not, it is also my understanding that if customs opened a package they would use specific customs branded tape. The sword was not sent by a collector, I did my best to advise on some packing tips but next time I will insist on a mailing tube being used. Quote
robinalexander Posted November 4, 2021 Report Posted November 4, 2021 John, I am sure you are across the postal enquiry process but for what its worth I tend to use the 'shotgun' approach and have the sender as well as the receiver (you) lodge missing article forms with both USPS and Austpost. Apologies if Ism stating the obvious. Missing Mail and Lost Packages | USPS Find a missing item - Australia Post (auspost.com.au) Digressing, I remember I had a surf board stolen from my car roof in Sydney in the 1970's but I still reported it to police...18 months later there was a bust in a Sydney suburb and guess what, got a call from the local constabulary to come pick up my board...surprised! The moral in that for me was to use every process at my disposal regardless of how futile it may seem at the time. Will keep eyes out like everyone, good luck Rob 1 2 Quote
robinalexander Posted November 5, 2021 Report Posted November 5, 2021 PS....somewhat ironically, I was working for Australia Post at that time Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted November 5, 2021 Author Report Posted November 5, 2021 Australia Post were very helpful and offered full compensation. I will continue to sporadically check with them if there's a chance it turns up in their missing item registry. 2 Quote
MHC Posted November 5, 2021 Report Posted November 5, 2021 So out of shear curiosity, if Australia post is offering full compensation, does that mean they are acknowledging that the sword actually arrived in Australia, then went missing after arrival, or are they simply honoring the insurance aspect of the shipping agreement? Mark Quote
lonely panet Posted November 5, 2021 Report Posted November 5, 2021 20 hours ago, PNSSHOGUN said: Australia Post were very helpful and offered full compensation. I will continue to sporadically check with them if there's a chance it turns up in their missing item registry. wow well done, i could never get insurance over $2000 aud. glad theres a small victory for you Quote
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