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Quick update on the blackpowder displays this autumn. We had one every weekend from the end of September until the 17th of November, meaning very heavy usage, with much cleaning and repair of guns and armor. The most recent event was for the Martial Arts Kobudosai where we fired our big guns indoors, nearly blowing the roof off the place. Nine matchlock tanzutsu/bajozutsu pistols. Hand cannons: One 20 Monme big gun. "Ni-ju Mon-me!" Three 30 Monme followed. "San-ju Mon-me!" Three 50 Monme next. "Go-ju Mon-me!" Two 100 Monme for the finale. "Hyaku Mon-me!" (1. Short 100 Monme hiyazutsu for firing bo-hiya or flaming bolts. 2. Long 100 Monme gun.) (Many thanks to Peter in Belfast and Anthony in Stockholm for sourcing the two largest guns for us. Both are lovingly used and looked after.) WARNING! NOT office friendly In December, at the request of the tourist board, there will be a (chilly) evening double-header with thunderous flashes in the grounds of Okayama Castle, on both the 7th and 8th, ...and that should finally wrap up the year. Phew!

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I seem to be late to the party, as usual. First off, if you can, stop using preypal for foreign transactions. Not only do they stick you with some pretty stiff transaction fees, but they also give you a crummy exchange rate - and.... the sellers often add a fee on top of that, since they don't want to pay for preypal either and they often expect you to. If your brokerage will do international wire transfers that works, but for the smaller amounts the people here seem to want to spend, you should contact your agent and see if they can use wise for transactions. the fees are like less than 1% and you get an excellent exchange rate (forex usually - really close to spot). Second, if you're treasure hunting, you should be hunting treasures. It is distressing to see particularly new (and sometimes not-so-new) collectors putting up pieces that are not well composed or executed, have poor workmanship, or bad condition problems (a coating of thick corrosion is generally not a good thing (except when it is - and ya gotta know when not to touch it - I have seen lovely ko-kinko pieces converted into pieces of indeterminate age by extreme cleaning - terrible)), etc. Diatribe about various cleaning, etc you can and really can't get away with (finished product will look "bad" when compared to a cared for one) omitted. You can go down the whole dark path with "fixer uppers", but really, it is better to just avoid them. There are a surprising number of pieces out there that are never going to be worth a lot, but they are in good condition, are well executed, etc - Rich Turner always called these "cheap and cheerful pieces". And there is a surprising number of these up almost all the time (with no or very very small problems). You can also get a deal if you are looking for a certain group or design or style of piece by buying what the Japanese don't want (wakizashi or tanto sized pieces, unsigned kinko that shouldn't be, etc). There is a difference between wabi sabi and corroded wrecks that are best given to the scrap man... I hate to say it, but this comes back to not knowing what good piece looks like. you can look in a book, but you would probably do better to try and see Known Good pieces in hand (go to shows, good museum collections, other collectors, etc. Third, fakes.. There are a lot of them, including several sellers on Yahoo!Japan that are selling complete fabrications - pieces that must be made by weekend warrior amateur tsuba makers they are usually a little "off" compared to what they are aiming for, have weird looking sekigane, etc - and sometimes these get bid up to crazy prices. And... there are a couple of sellers who seem to get ahold of old pieces, ruin them, and throw them up on YJ (they are the real deal, but they appear to have been sanded down, have an awful patina, etc)... Discouraging. On top of that, most of the volume sellers are dealers now, and they mostly know how to photograph stuff - to minimize or outright hide problems (not really a fake problem, but the pieces look far different in hand or when photographed to show everything). Getting borderline dross is just a waste of your money IMHO. Earlier in the year I actually bot some lower cost pieces mostly for photo testing. A lot of them are in a condition where I can't sell them in good conscience - and I'll probably just give them away soon - maybe on the NMB for shipping and a donation to the NMB or something. Just because I gotta put up an obligatory image, here's one. I bought the piece as a "catch and release" testing mei shooting on funky surfaces, etc. From the auction pictures you couldn't tell that the webs were partially eaten away, the surface has a pretty violent tsuchime - it looks like somebody took a punch or a hammer to the surface (it is "supposed" to be hammer work, but I've never seen something like this), you could not see the amida bori, etc. this is similar to a piece posted earlier in this thread: and maybe I should have put up a bigger version... oh well Best, rkg (Richard George)

Nice. I like those shakudo plugs. This tsuba reminds me of the first I ever bought..and still have. Pic for ref.

Alex, I know one for you:

This has become an addiction!!! I just went back to the dealer who sold me the water wheel guard and, despite saying "no more expense this year", fell in love with this and had to get it. The beautiful, rough texture of the iron, along with those huge plugs of shakudo are SO unique! Dee

Moderate to severe rust will destroy the patina underneath, likely that it was long gone and you removing it revealed the state of things underneath. Looks pretty good and as others have said it'll (slowly) come back over time. I'll echo Jean's statement while mixing in some periodic cloth rubbing to clean up the surface. Keep in mind, this isn't an overnight process. Patience is key. I had a light spot on an Owari guard I previously owned (which are generally known to be fast healing) and it still took a couple years to fully blend in.

Front/ omote Mogarashi (藻柄氏) Nyūdō Sōten sei (入道宗典製) Back/ ura Gōshū (江州) Hikone jū (彦根住)

Okan, a bit snarky. It was exactly as I said. A friend acquired it, I shot a single photo and asked for any info that could be provided. i didn’t buy it, don’t own it and am not selling it.

Deanne, you did well to remove the red rust! Now a good patina can build up. Iron TSUBA should be "cuddled" with bare hands quite often as this will help build up the protective black iron oxide layer. This process will take some time so be patient!

Keep rubbing it every now and then with a soft cotton cloth, it will pick up a glossy finish eventually, sun exposure can also help. I think it will look much better over time, you did a good job to get rid of that "pork crackling" rust [A term I just made up ]

Not averse to searching for low cost value for money, hence started a thread in the members area regarding budget items. I put it in there for a reason as didn't want the elitist brigade on my back lol. Was thinking maybe folks could post stuff in there that they come across, should they not want to buy it. Assist someone else gain a good deal on something that one may not come across too often, something that has something about it. Even stated would buy such an item. Not talking about every day junk you see on Ebay. Gave that up years ago as become sick of sifting through trash and anything that was good, was the same price as what you find on dealer sites anyways. Would one make a collection out of such items and spend a great deal of money? No.

Check this out: Clause 2 discussion. Short version: "Nick Komiya in his Rinji Seishiki to Daiyou Seishiki Weapons Specs thread has uncovered specific documents detailing the conversion of this Clause 2 stamp to mean "Article 2 of this regulation defined Daiyo-Seishiki-Heiki as “weapons in specifications employing substitute materials in its component(s) or redesigned to conserve materials" or more succinctly "Substitute-Spec Weapons". Late war mil spec changes allowed non-standard materials and non-standard production in many weapons, including swords. The circled 2 originally would indicate the weapon could not be used for combat and should only be used in training. But the late-war reg change also changed the use of the stamp.

Yes I have noticed the smaller pieces are often much cheaper or even overlooked - I can't work out why myself, they take as long to make, maybe even more work involved - big is not always better. I am often amused by some sellers posting very dark images of tsuba they are trying to sell - Don't they have enough money for electric light or do they live in a coal mine? It automatically makes you cautious! This guy, I call him the "backyard blacksmith" https://www.jauce.co...j2hmyuc?search=tsuba He usually has more stock, but I think he is busy at his backyard forge getting next weeks designs done. He still needs some work on his patina which is always black and oily looking.

小烏丸 – Kogarasumaru (I guess that the inscription mistakes 鳥 for 烏.) 来國房 – Rai Kunifusa FYI, Genuine Kogarasumaru Kogarasu Maru - Wikipedia

You forgot the deposit fee. Add in Elon Musk taking his cut from any Paypal transaction + his very far off from current exchange rate conversion. [No wonder he is the richest man on Earth - he has taken all OUR money!] One aspect you may not have experienced yet with Jauce is that they have a loyalty policy - if you have been a long term buyer from them, they do give a credit rating amount on the basis that you have paid all previous costs. The credit allows you to buy things when you may be a little short of funds temporarily, but they will send a "hurry up and pay" if you haven't topped up your account within 24 hrs - I believe it took me eight years to win their credit trust! I am sure they don't fully trust "foreigners" Almost anything you find on Jauce can also be found on Yahoo JP and Buyee who have their own system of payments and fee structure, so it may be a good idea to check them out, they could be cheaper or offer sales on credit like ebay. I use Jauce because I find it easier to locate items that way but it is relatively easy to use Jauce as a search tool and then track down the same item on one of the other platforms. Each item has a unique code at the end eg. https://www.jauce.com/auction/1162767573 This part of the code 1162767573 can be pasted into a Buyee item say https://buyee.jp/ite.../auction/h1162219928 and end up with https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/1162767573 where you end up with the same item on a different platform. I hope that makes some sense.

I’m a new collector and am currently fixing to buy my first Tsuba from a Japanese dealer. I’ve been reading the Tsuba section for some time now, and as John stated, my first Tsuba will be a papered one. Not Tokubetsu Hozon, as they are very expensive, but a regular NBTHK Hozon. It is $400. It will be a good piece for learning and studying. This way, as a beginner, I will know exactly what I’m buying. ps: Last month, I used ebay to buy my first tsuba book.

Hi. Today, we completed the installation of a display here in Melbourne. It's a nice display, worth visiting. The venue, Box Hill RSL, is quite large with restaurant, cafe, bar, and is very busy. We have displayed a good cross section of samurai art. The backbone of thr display is Colin McDonald and kudos to him. It will run for about 1 year, with most items being changed every four months. I'll post more details over time. If you'd like to know more please message me. Mark

Hello Jason (and also Sam since I saw his recent post on this thread). I started this thread to try and help new collectors negotiate the labyrinth of tsuba that are on eBay and maybe give them some useful tips. And I do love my pieces, so I will keep doing what I have done for the past about 6 years. My philosophy is “never change a winning game, always change a losing game”. I feel that I have been winning in the way I acquire my pieces from eBay. I have tried Jauce (and have acquired one piece from them). But it was not a bid (like I stated before, bidding is not for me!), it was a buy it now. I found out that with putting a required amount of money in Jauce before you can purchase, and with all the added fees attached and then the shipping; it just about equals what I could have bought the same tsuba for on eBay (especially if I communicated with the seller and was successful in negotiating a lower price with him for the piece). Not only that, but the eBay pieces arrived in a timelier manner than the Jauce piece. As I stated somewhere else on this forum (darn it, can’t remember the thread!) I am not interested in selling my tsuba. I don’t purchase them to turn them around and make a profit (as I am sure many other collectors do). I buy them, learn from them, give the lower quality tsuba a good home (until I pass and move on, as my collection will also move on!), and enjoy them by hanging them on several walls of the house and viewing them every day! Also, I know that I have been fortunate enough to purchase quite a few quality pieces on eBay for under $150. I know that because I have a very knowledgeable friend that studies tsuba and I have shown some of my tsuba to him and he has stated that I got a great deal for the price that I paid! So, deals can still be had on eBay. You just have to learn to discern and know what you are looking at (and you can always contact the seller and ask questions about the piece). And yes, (and I also know I stated this on another thread-but again old age has made me forget where; I have to blame something!) I have been bit once or twice on my eBay purchases because of misleading seller pictures or other information. But when I get bit, I don’t lose much money compared to someone else that has deep pockets and spends a lot more for a tsuba. And when I have gotten bit, I have spent less than what many known and stated as such reproduction tsuba cost. So, not a big loss and they still end up on my walls! We all collect in different ways and for different reasons. I personally enjoy the challenge of finding a nice old, showing signs of possibly being mounted on a blade, possibly rusted (more than likely!) tsuba on eBay for about $150 (sometimes a little more, sometimes less). Hey, that is just me! Onward!

Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. When a friend sold this yari to me, about 10 years ago, the pole at nearly 13 feet long stuck out from the front window. I had no red, so tied a white section of cloth to it. As I pulled out onto the main road, I saw a police car coming up right behind me. I think the law says anything outside the outer dimensions of the car must extend front or back, but not sideways. It was a sweaty nerve-wracking drive, and the dang police vehicle followed me almost the whole way home, for a good thirty minutes. Coincidence that they were on the same route, was it, or were they checking to see if they could book me for something? Anyway, eventually they turned off, and I breathed a deep sigh of relief. That was the story of taking it home. Well, you will not believe this, so I will not bother swearing on the grave of my mother, etc., but yesterday I had the pole sticking out a good three or four feet from the front window. I had wrapped it in a towel so it would not either bust the window or mark the yari, and then I placed a long red gun cover over the external protrusion, tied that firmly in place, and somehow made it down the drive, avoiding the overhanging bushes and trees. The gun bag was flapping mightily in the wind, the whole pole shaking as if in full Sengoku battle. As I was getting used to driving this extra-wide load in the rush-hour traffic, my hand on the pole, trying not to spear any cyclists, a police squad car appeared in my rear-view mirror, two or three cars back. NOT AGAIN!?!?! One by one the intervening cars peeled off and finally the police were right on my rear bumper! In the mirror I could see them there in the front seat consulting each other, but all I could do was sit in the traffic jam as we inched forwards, me sweating buckets. Would I have to pay more for the privilege of owning a long yari (yes, I had removed the blade!) with points on my license and a hefty fine? And what would I do with the damn thing if they told me to pull over? I stuck to just inside the centre line to take the widest possible berth. The tension in the pit of my stomach was killing me. Well, they did not switch on their lights and siren, but I did notice that they had moved their squad car closer to the side of the road, ...almost as if they were covering for the pole! I guess they were behind me like that for 15 minutes of so of my journey, finally pulling off and heading away up to the university. The whole slow drive took me an hour and a half to get the vibrating yari to its new home. Luckily the wife was away this week, so I was able to shift bits of armour and various other 'non-household' things. Phew! Posted before, but once more to help grasp the size of the problem.

Can you share the picture please? Cause the one you've shared is a screenshot from the ebay link.

This is a recently acquired Kanayama tsuba "study piece" costing just over $300 on a Jauce auction. It has a massive seppa-dai and large lump-type tekkotsu concentrated on the upper mimi clockwise between 7 o' clock and 1 o' clock (two are shown in pic). There is a slight dishing from mimi to seppa-dai. This is a genuine Kanayama, but has some unusual variant features. The motif on the left and right of the seppa-dai and forming the hitsu-ana is often referred to as "sea cucumber" (namako) and made famous by the tsuba of Miyamoto Musashi. However, I highly doubt that he was thinking of a deep sea creature to decorate a sword fitting when he adopted this abstract motif as part of the simple and symmetric composition commonly found in Kanayama tsuba. This tsuba is almost certainly a product of the Momoyama Period with a lively flow of curves in the composition that is mesmerizing and evocative of Wabi Tea and Zen Buddhist aesthetic principles including wabi, sabi, and mono no aware. For me it is also an especially powerful evocation of yugen (mystery). Beyond the tekkotsu there is variation in thickness going around the mimi and the seppa-dai, which exaggerates the rustic spirit of the overall effect. The surface has an unusual appearance comprised of an exaggerated and coarse cobblestones/craters (not sure if it can be described as tsuchime-ji) interrupting a beautiful yakite-shitate surface treatment. This seems to be an intentional aesthetic expression rather than reflecting any corrosion of the patina, which has a lovely color. There is an almost identical example of this tsuba in "Openwork Tsuba" by Kenichi Okubo, et al (page 192) that is more of a classical Kanayama tsuba in its features. The major differences are that the width of the motifs on either side is even less uniform in my tsuba, being thinner at the center so as to create almost the appearance of upper and lower lobes, it has a massive seppa-dai measuring 47 x 27 mm (reminiscent of Ko-Shoami), and it has an unusual linear gouged tagane pattern around the entire nakago-ana. It appears to have been mounted many times, which may attest to the aesthetic value placed on this tsuba. There are a few other similar pieces found on my Google search, but they are linked to NMB posts that apparently no longer exist. The major differences are whether there is a kogai hitsuana or if both are kozuka hitsuana, and whether the curved element that forms the hitsu-ana is joined to the mimi in a more round shape (relaxed), such as in my tsuba, or at a more acute angle (stiff) as in the reference piece below. Diameter: 76 mm Width: 5.7 (mimi), 5.0-5.3 mm (seppa-dai) Weight: 97 gm

Steve, Here is my two and half cents as an armchair Japanese historian. Ko-Shoami were produced in Kyoto from the Muromachi Period up until the end of the Azuchi-Momoyama Period. They transitioned into other provinces starting as early as the Azuchi-Momoyama Period under the rule of Oda Nobunaga and continued until the beginning of the Edo Period and were centered around castle towns. The group of artists that remained in Kyoto became the Kyo-Shoami group. I would say there was some cross pollination of designs of the Kanayama group located in Owari Providence with the ever widely distributed of different Shoami groups.

Hi Michael, Time, experience and research are your friends. Many of us jumped into this with both feet and regretted it (a bit) later so taking your time and expanding your knowledge and budget will not do you any harm. Other big US shows are in Orlando and San Francisco if that helps: https://orlandoswordshow.com/ http://www.ncjsc.org/SF_token_kai.htm

Hi Jim, According to the description on the inside of the box lid, I believe the signature is 尼子弘光 Amago Hiromitsu (the signature on the tsuba might use a different form of the "hiro" kanji but it's to small to make out from the photo and blurs when I enlarge it so I've gone from the description which is clearer). The Amago were a Japanese clan and the stamp of four squares appearing on the tsuba and drawn in the description is their mon (coat of arms). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amago_clan He doesn't appear to be a very well known artist as, whilst there are other similar ones on the internet, there's not a huge amount of information about him that I've turned out so that might arouse suspicions, but I've no idea whether the tsuba is genuine or not and you'll have to rely on others for their take on it as I don't have access to research materials beyond Google Sensei. Anyway, I hope that's of some use to you.

Interesting finding, a Tanto in Wakizashi Koshirae + Katana. Tagged as Daisho by AOI. https://www.aoijapan...n-osafune-kiyomitsu/

Hi Michael, Exciting to get into the world of Nihonto! I'm right there with you. There's a sword show in Vegas coming up this January - a good excuse for a trip! For what it's worth, many of us perfectly enjoy our sub 10K swords. You'll still be able to enjoy finer swords from afar. We all want the best, but don't let that keep you from what's realistic for you. I love my BMW, knowing it's no Rolls Royce At your price range and into low level juyo, you will have a lot of interesting pieces to choose from when the time is right and you have the knowledge. Best of luck, -Sam

A beautiful and unique piece! As you stated- “fell in love with this and had to get it.” That is the best reason to buy a tsuba, in my opinion! I have also found that sometimes the piece just calls out to you! I am sure much more knowledgeable members than I am will tell you more about your tsuba. Onward!

The mark on the left of the number "2" is "関" (Seki). The wooden-handled Type 95 were using the "名" (Na) mark before the 205xxx serial number.

Want one of those heavy duty hand cannons!

You aren't selling yours are you? https://www.jauce.com/auction/h1162893289 No not enough "lobes"!

A bit repetitive, however another list of arsenal marks. John C.

Just buy good quality tsuba (fittings etc) from trusted sources, ideally papered so you know as well as you can that you’re getting what you pay for. If you want to go treasure hunting, go ahead, but expect the dross to far outweigh the quality. This can has been kicked down the road ad nauseam. There’s a simple answer to this conundrum and that’s to not be drawn into speculating on stuff on dodgy websites where the sellers hold the big cards.

Eric Apologies but I have to return to my job at Sea day after tomorrow & so will be unable to post the requested images of the possible Chu Mihara. Clearly you have some knowledge in that area as many of the terms you have used are beyond my knowledge lol!!! I will be back in uk April 2025 and will post some images then . Thanks again Leon

Ok. Get ready for fees. Small annoying fees. Winning fee Local delivery fee Banking fee And the postage and taxes. But the selection of items both quality and price is 1000 times better. Firstly you must have money in your jauce account to bid. When you win the item is posted to jauce, they pack it and send it to you. There packaging is the best. Double padded in sturdy boxes all send via Japan post tracked an fully insured. Proof of id at pick up. All this can extend the time from buy to getting it in your hot little hands. If your tsuba knowledge is good you will find gems at good prices. If you want to buy drink coaster tsuba like the crude things afew posts above that you couldnt attribute to a school or smith or learn anything from. Then ebay is the easier option.

Yes, KANEIE style, not school, I think. Late EDO might also be correct.

Hi Peter, It could be Kaneie but if it is, it is late - seems like too much inlay and in various colours. Kaneie was more known for a sparing amount of gold inlay - less was more, at least in the early works. Gimei usually have a signature - it was the selling point even when it was obviously not true. No signature would suggest to me it is not trying to be a Kaneie but might be following similar designs. Shoami? [Yes I know a bit of a "catch-all"] Minimal inlay - prominent signature. Signed Fushimi ju kaneie, circa 1650-1750. Someone with more knowledge will point us in the right direction.

I think this is the very heart of the "problem". Investing more money on fewer items is no guarantee that the items are in fact "better" - How does paying more increase the quality? It should be the case but often it is not. Which one of these is selling for US $32,775.00 and the other for US $422.06 ? - Now tell me why buying the more expensive one gets me value for money?

I think going wide is just as viable as going quality, in my opinion there is no correct way in collecting and enjoying the hobby. I can very well understand Dan. As to certain point I would be going similar way if I had funds. In my personal collection I would much rather have 10 middle tier swords than 1 high quality sword in comparison. To me that would be much more enjoyable. I have a friend here in Finland who has 100+ tsuba along with very massive collection of all things Samurai. I always enjoy greatly viewing so large number of tsuba with huge variation in styles and quality as well. I know not everyone would like that but I try to enjoy items of all levels.

He seemed real concerned everyone knew how many stars he had. (Or maybe he was fishing for number 5?)

Correct. Ijima factory if i remembers correctly

It's a good sentiment but all of this feels very much like teaching grandmother to suck eggs..... A list of trusted sellers, who to avoid, useful search terms etc etc might be more helpful?

I just bought a book from Grey and he is in Duluth,MN which is only a few hours from me

Hmmm... Not sure where this idea came from, but it is quite inaccurate. There are a good handful of pre-Edo tsubako who regularly signed their works. Among them are the two Nobuiye, the two Kaneiye, the early Yamakichibei smiths, Hoan, Sadahiro, Umetada Myoju, Umetada Mitsutada, and Koike Yoshiro Naomasa. So, not only were there pre-Edo smiths who regularly signed their tsuba, but each of these artists is generally regarded as one of the very finest tsubako of any era in Japanese history. This doesn't have much to do with the OP's concerns, but I did want to respond to that statement for educational purposes...

There is a consideration on the motif by Ito Sanpei. Ref. 無銘金山鐔「山道文透かし」鐔 He suggests that the motif is 山道文 – Mountain road pattern

Hectic times here. We have blackpowder displays every single weekend until the double on 7th and 8th of December, so 10 in total including last week at Tottori Castle. On Saturday and Sunday we had the local NBTHK sword society display with some lovely things in glass cases. One corner was set up for the public to try their hand at tagane work. One wall was for a teppo display, which was my watch. With one Satsuma long gun from the south-west, and two Sendai guns from the north-east, I was finally able to complete the display I have been dreaming of, two tables with various guns representing many of the regional manufacturing areas throughout Japan. I used the green felt cut-out for the four islands. Honshu Sendai long gun Sendai 30-Monme 0-zutsu hand cannon (Date Masamune) Matsushiro (Takeda/Sanada) long gun Kii, Wakayama 20-Monme O-zutsu hand cannon Kunitomo pistol c.1610 Bizen pistol Bizen long gun Choshu long gun (Mohri) Shikoku Iyo long army gun, made to order in Nanto (Nara) Yamato Kyushu Kumamoto Castle long army gun (Hosokawa) Satsuma long army gun Apart from the nigiri deppo, for added variety, all the above were matchlocks. (Kept four back in reserve, so as not to clutter)