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Two almost identical other than the nakago-ana: One in the Met. https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/35193 what I find odd is the shape of the Met's example nakago-ana, too sharp for its age and little to no wear? https://eirakudo.shop/tosogu/tsuba/detail/324249/ a papered piece as Katchūshi I also see these on some auction sites - makes me think many are Edo revival pieces.
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I really don't know what to think about this dry leaf... 🤔
Spartancrest replied to Yves55's topic in Tosogu
Coca, the Japanese daimyo drug Lords? -
I really don't know what to think about this dry leaf... 🤔
Spartancrest replied to Yves55's topic in Tosogu
https://www.jauce.com/auction/t1229781619 -
A similar cloisonne guard selling at auction now : https://www.jauce.com/auction/x1229777805 starting at 150,000 yen. By the time fees are added in - this is approaching $1,000 USD
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Well I got you all talking! Heck it was just a suggestion - I would like to buy a few of them myself! Not that that would be any guarantee they would survive forever. What is the consensus of splitting up collections? They never "go back together again" do they? + Curran - do you want me to name the prestigious Universities and Museums? There is a long list!
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I did spot one cast copy and possibly two guards made for replica tachi mounts. The rest are looking OK and there are one or two I would like myself! Just a suggestion, but as we are really just temporary custodians of these things - any thought of donating them to a local museum? Along with the story of how they were found would add local value to them and keep them together. [Like I say just a suggestion]
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Other patterns: https://www.jauce.com/auction/f1229523918 https://tsubashi.com/product/katchushi-style-tsuba/ https://tsubashi.com/product/signed-katchushi-style-tsuba/ and this one with no borders https://tsubashi.com/product/a-fine-saotome-tsuba/ [I am not confident with the sellers attribution ] - but he has found the ishime term - chirimen-amidayasuri
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Hi Kin, welcome to NMB. Sorry to say I find a couple of "ODD" features with this tsuba. There is an impossible sword strike mark on the omote side above the hitsu and across the seppa-dai - - impossible because such a strike would need to cut longitudinally through the blade, unless the tsuba was struck whilst dismounted [In which case why would there be a defensive strike?] Also the hitsu is well outside the seppa-dai and would not serve the purpose of slotting a kozuka or kogai into the saya - unless the saya was massively thick. Combine this with the tagane-ato on both sides of the tsuba being identically placed, as a rule punch marks tend to be on one face with occasionally extra when one side is beaten too thin. The odd divots on the seppa-dai where the signature is engraved don't add up either. The indented pattern over the surface is a fast and sloppy way of trying to look like nanako. So for me it is a tourist piece as Jean has said or maybe a paperweight. I will keep searching and see if I can find others like it.
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I think this is a type with "crepe ishime" - there is a proper term in Japanese but I don't have it handy. These seem to be from a school that specialized in this decoration, designs vary a lot but there are many examples where the piercing shifts position around the plate. I have been collecting images of these for some time and note there are two main styles - one with the seppa-dai and hitsu outlined and the other where the ishime is not "contained" Here are three with the same "gumbai" piercing design. If you can find another they make a great daisho! [My "daisho" with a different pierced design.]
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I really don't know what to think about this dry leaf... 🤔
Spartancrest replied to Yves55's topic in Tosogu
Sorry no idea - Shoami Ito? -
I really don't know what to think about this dry leaf... 🤔
Spartancrest replied to Yves55's topic in Tosogu
I like the Dote-mimi - I think Jean may be right about a revival piece, this one from the Edo era - no Dote-mimi though. Anyone know the plant the leaf represents? We still need a scientific non-invasive method to date iron. - Though even this may not be indicative of when the tsuba was fashioned from the iron - how we get around that would seem difficult. I guess you can test the patina age?? But what then if the piece has been cleaned back to bare metal? These questions keep us interested in the subject of tsuba and not having all the answers keeps our "little grey cells" active! -
Good taste - one I would go for as well. - - what Mauro said! not a gazillion miles from this?
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Hi Chris. Your squirrel tsuba appeared in 2024 in this thread - along with this image of an utsushi Another from this thread : With this image There is also a single squirrel design with papers listed here -https://matsukaze.thebase.in/items/8490153 And another with both ategane filled here https://www.touken-world.jp/search-sword-guard/art0002655/ and here with papers https://www.ayakashi.co.jp/items/83815405 I have seen a few tsuba with "Shoki on the bridge" as well, but they tend to be cast copies [Not yours] https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/396800258462 you can tell the design is Shoki because of his "Ken" type sword as opossed to Yoshitsune and Benkei on the bridge. There are rarely only "just one" of anything!
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Could be, the tsuba is certainly "Modern"
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OMG - from the Stevie Wonder school of tsuba decoration. I love the lopsided seppa-dai [Not] Well it is a lot cheaper than the estimates, but still way over the odds, on Mercari https://jp.mercari.com/item/m52104238755 identical images.
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I am beginning to think Nobuie made nothing else! https://www.jauce.com/auction/x1229171949 I do like the udenuki-ana. https://www.bonhams.com/auction/22472/lot/99/a-nobuie-tsuba-edo-period-17th-century/
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https://www.legacyswords.com/portfolio/sadayuki-tsuba/ This one sadly sold. Another either an utsushi or degraded from the other sale appeared about a month ago on Jauce - it did get a lot of interest. https://www.jauce.com/auction/o1226150302 seen these? https://www.jauce.com/auction/h1026816107 https://www.jauce.com/auction/j1227489912
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That's because I don't have a life! The thread for that image is here https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/14733-udenuki-no-ana-two-holes-near-edge-of-tsuba/
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https://xmhqqg.dlubowitz.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=13979&sid=6XDvntj The site won't open for me either but the image is able to be copied. When I tried to search the second image I get a link including Yahoo Auctions. But still won't show where it originated. Need a froggy tsuba? https://www.jauce.com/auction/w1228933639 Heads up it is a "popular" cast piece! Note the simulated sekigane!
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Mine is a bit odd, the cut out in the hitsu goes the wrong way? I like the udenuki-ana on yours, they are unusual on an already sukashi guard. I don't know how many like it there might be? This one from a post last year might interest you. Posted January 3, 2025
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Is this the same piece? - found on another site
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Matt lovely piece - coincidence as I just won one on auction but I have no idea what I will find under the dirt and rust! Do you think Nobuie was a "Nutter for Nata"?
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Fred W. has this one up on his site: Fred needs to check his images - same side view of the guard, no ura view, https://www.slam.org/collection/objects/37749/ a Nata on the back like Bruno's and Grev's examples - must be a meaning there?
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Total AI [with a little help from me!] [Funny thing is the nakago-ana is one of the few bits original!]
