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Naginata naoshi katana in ww2 mountings


EdWolf

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Recently, I have added a naginata naoshi katana in military mountings to my collection. I'm excited about it and want to share my excitement withyou guys. I really like the blade shape. The nagasa is 67 cm. The original signature is lost but the signature is painted in gold kanji (Mitsuhiro) on the nakago.  The blade is in a good condition. Not the best quality pictures but the best I could do.

Feel free to comment. 

Kind regards,  Ed

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Ed,

I am not a blade specialist, so allow me to ask why that is a NAGINATA (or NAGAMAKI) NAOSHI ? To my eyes it looks just like a KATANA/DAITO with a NAGINATA BOHI. Is there no KAERI in the BOSHI ?

Just curious!

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@ROKUJURO Jean, that is a good question. I have called it naginata naoshi because it was in the description of the seller. I think it's not a tue naginata naoshi but a naginata naoshi style blade.

At the end of the following page is a description of what I mean.

 

http://www.ksky.ne.j...umie99/naginata.html

 

@DoTanuki yokaiChrisian, hard to tell the difference between naginata zukuri and naginata naoshi style. 

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Without clearer images it is not clear what this blade is. 

 

19 hours ago, ROKUJURO said:

Is there no KAERI in the BOSHI ?

 

Kantei begins with shape.

It is essential to determine what shape changes, if any, this piece has undergone in order to determine whether or not this is actually a naginata naoshi katana? Is there a turn back in the boshi? Images?

Is the nakago ubu, suriage, or O suriage? 

Further;

Who is this Mitsuhiro supposedly? 

Full dimensions of this blade? 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

 

 

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I agree with John. It looks to me like perhaps an unsigned shin shinto blade that someone decided to add a signature to in order to make it look older, though it does look chiselled unlike the usual gold sharpie kinpun mei that is seen on a number of blades at the moment. It does look like a nice blade though, congratulations Ed!

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My favorite kind of blade.  It just creates dimension and class to a blade but still has an imposing aesthetic.  A naginata-hi especially on a katana length blade is just cool imo.  Nice pick up!  I would also agree it looks shin-shinto to me.

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The signature is indeed chiseled and painted gold. Wish my eyes where better.

 

A few more pictures of the blade. Not great pictures but it's the best I can do.

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Ed,

 

Thank you for posting these additional images.

 

Is it possible that you could follow up with these numbers? 

Moto-kasane? Saki-kasane? Moto-haba? Saki-haba? 

Additionally, it would be helpful to know what the width of the nakago (kasane) is at its widest point?

Images here would be great, too?

 

Thanks.

 

Regards,

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Hello! Yes I mean that smith. Unfortunately his work seems to be super rare. So far in all my years tracking down old items I think I have only came to see 3 items signed by this smith. Here is attached the only one of those that I have picture other than the signature so some working style can be seen. While being so rare and would be a very uncommon attribution it is probably the only Mitsuhiro (光弘) smith I can think of.

 

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Jussi, your research is always much appreciated and revealing. 

 

Has it been determined how old this sword is?

Has it been decided if this sword is naoshi or not?

 

On 3/5/2024 at 3:03 PM, EdWolf said:

Moto-haba 3.2 cm

Moto-kasana 0.8 cm

Saki-haba 2.2 cm (measured at about 6 cm from the tip)

Saki-jasana 0.6 cm

Length nakago 19 cm,  width 0.7 cm

 

These measurements raise questions about this being a nambokucho period sword. 

Is it live or is it memorex?

 

Regards,

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