Timur Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Posted May 26, 2016 Thank you guys, I will try it for shinsa. Will keep updated. Quote
Darcy Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 Also I matched against all the Juyo and I did not see this kao. Goto Ichijo changed his name two times. There is Goto Mitsuyo. Ichijo. And then Hakuo (almost all tsuba). I don't see this kao anywhere. I am though eating chips with one hand in bed with the computer waiting to fall asleep. But find that kao where it is acceptable and that will back or break your opinion. Quote
Timur Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Posted July 12, 2018 Time to conclude this 3 year old thread 4 Quote
YOJIMBO Posted July 12, 2018 Report Posted July 12, 2018 Well, now a lot of local experts . congratulation 1 Quote
Vermithrax16 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Posted July 12, 2018 Entertaining thread to read this morning. Congrats on the papers and thanks for the update. Who has a reference book that has this mei style listed? Quote
Timur Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Posted July 12, 2018 Thank you guys! Yes, Jeremiah, I also reread it with great interest. 1 Quote
TETSUGENDO Posted July 12, 2018 Report Posted July 12, 2018 Textbook example of Ichijo during his "Warhol" period, as famous as he is I don''t feel he gets the full measure of respect he deserves. His work ranges from meticulous micro detail to conceptual "serial" art, a varied and facinating career. Fine piece Valery...Well done! -S- 1 Quote
Surfson Posted July 12, 2018 Report Posted July 12, 2018 Congratulations on having the insight and confidence to buy and submit this one Valery! A beautiful piece. Quote
Gakusee Posted July 12, 2018 Report Posted July 12, 2018 Congrats! It shows you how you need to take with a pinch of salt our opinions here on the board! 2 1 Quote
Stephen Posted July 12, 2018 Report Posted July 12, 2018 Great news!! Reread but missed where it was repatinaed...would you tell what im missing? Quote
Curran Posted July 12, 2018 Report Posted July 12, 2018 Most excellent! I respect the opinions here that most such items should be papered, if being sold by a dealer. Yet things DO just come out of the woodwork, unpapered. One of the other commenters in this thread has several times now pulled big name piece out of the pile and gone on to paper them. It looks like Valery is very adept at it too. It can be dangerous. Own the books and build up your confidence level. 1 1 Quote
Timur Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Posted July 12, 2018 Great news!! Reread but missed where it was repatinaed...would you tell what im missing? Stephen, no repatination involved. Just the first photos were from the seller - the tsuba had silver look, but it was just a trick of shakudo getting light from different angles. Quote
marcus Posted July 12, 2018 Report Posted July 12, 2018 I'm glad to hear you were able to finally get confirmation on the piece. I had very little doubt that it was the real deal. Congratulations! Cheers, Marcus 2 Quote
Alan Morton Posted July 14, 2018 Report Posted July 14, 2018 Good solid call Marcus . Congratulations Valery Alan 2 Quote
Nikanoru Posted July 17, 2018 Report Posted July 17, 2018 Who has a reference book that has this mei style listed? Signed when he was above 75. 4 Quote
Vermithrax16 Posted July 22, 2018 Report Posted July 22, 2018 1F56D5AD-E000-4054-B881-F5FF35B94786.jpeg Signed when he was above 75. Excellent Alex! Thank you! 1 Quote
Popular Post Ed Posted July 23, 2018 Popular Post Report Posted July 23, 2018 Congratulations. There is a lesson to be learned here for both new and old. There are big, and small name legitimate pieces from Japan (aren't they all) which do not have papers. Simply coming out of Japan or from a dealer without papers is no guarantee one way or the other of their legitimacy. Of course not all are legitimate, but for people to make such broad, sweeping claims is preposterous. This tsuba is in your face proof. It frustrates me every time I hear someone say with such intransigent authority, "If it is a big name and no papers it is gimei", or "If it came out of Japan and doesn't have papers, it's gimei", "it it is from a dealer and has no papers, it's gimei", or "Big name, no papers = no sale". I have brought many un-papered swords and fittings from Japan, which later went on to receive various levels of papers, from Hozon to Juyo. It has been my experience that there is only one rule for this hobby that is set in stone, and that is "nothing is set in stone". 15 Quote
Ford Hallam Posted November 1, 2020 Report Posted November 1, 2020 he he, well I'm quite proud of my friend and student, Marcus, calling it spot on. Obviously his eye has benefitted from superior tosogu appreciation training. 😂 3 Quote
terminus Posted November 2, 2020 Report Posted November 2, 2020 Maybe this has been answered before, are the Ichijo snow flake tsubas stamps? or engravings? And what's the story behinds them? Quote
Ford Hallam Posted November 2, 2020 Report Posted November 2, 2020 Hi Tony The patterns are stamped into the tsuba ground. Not sure what the story might be but there was in the little woodblock book published in 1832 that illustrated the varieties of snowflake patterns. Sekkazusetsu or 'Illustrations of snow flowers' was a record made by a Daimyo (Doi Toshitsura, Daimyo of Hitachi Province), he'd imported a microscope from Holland and spent 20 years sitting in the snow in winter studying snowflakes and recording their shapes. Snowflakes had not been seen so clearly before and their beauty and novelty made them and immediate hit with designers and the culturally trendy of the urban centres. 3 Quote
masakatsu Posted November 2, 2020 Report Posted November 2, 2020 Another example for your viewing pleasure... 4 1 Quote
terminus Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/2/2020 at 3:49 AM, Ford Hallam said: Hi Tony The patterns are stamped into the tsuba ground. Not sure what the story might be but there was in the little woodblock book published in 1832 that illustrated the varieties of snowflake patterns. Sekkazusetsu or 'Illustrations of snow flowers' was a record made by a Daimyo (Doi Toshitsura, Daimyo of Hitachi Province), he'd imported a microscope from Holland and spent 20 years sitting in the snow in winter studying snowflakes and recording their shapes. Snowflakes had not been seen so clearly before and their beauty and novelty made them and immediate hit with designers and the culturally trendy of the urban centres. Aww, thanks Ford. That makes a lot of sense and I was wondering if these tsubas had any relation to Doi Toshitsura. I remember that example Matt! I especially like yours since the snowflake stamps are imprinted on gold inlay. Quote
Curran Posted November 16, 2021 Report Posted November 16, 2021 I don't think Timur has been back since before the Pandemic. I had a general email from him in the last few months, but no follow up when I replied to his questions. Quote
Infinite_Wisdumb Posted June 1 Report Posted June 1 On 11/14/2021 at 4:13 AM, YOJIMBO said: do you like ? Just sold on Jauce https://www.jauce.com/auction/q1184197211 1 2 Quote
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