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Shamsy last won the day on December 7 2019

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  1. Thanks for the update, @Kiipu. What a mess. This is not a third example of the 'field cast' (from F&G or the one that I have posted here) as it doesn't match at all. Main difference being the locking latch, lack of a lower peg and the better details of the tsuka. The 'field cast' also appear to have different saya and tsuba, evident in both F&G and the picture below. Just looks really bad tsuka, low detail, either badly worn/sanded or far below the usual quality. I would say Stegel is right in his doubts about the originality of the tsuka. The whole sword is just a mash of parts pretending to be a 95. The fact the cover removes is not a good thing.
  2. Oh gee. Well that better picture of the tsuka really makes it look poor. I agree, little to no detail... almost looks sanded. The detail on the tsuba is pretty lacking too. It didn't fit together... restitched leather. Yeah, calling this one a bust.
  3. The '95' is Chinese crap. Read the Fake NCO Thread and you will see many examples of this poor reproduction.
  4. 124k to 125k. Last I remember speaking to Stegel, we were aware of about 15 examples existing. I expect they made far less than 1,000 swords.
  5. Astute observation. Had a quick look and agree, definitely a mutt. Kobe range from 37k to 39k, so blade does not match the fuchi. The saya doesn't match blade or Kobe range numbers either. The habaki doesn't appear to fit, so agree there, though it does look as though the seppa is removed in the photo, so could just be not fitted together? It looks a bit sanded though and shape is bad. As I mentioned, the Kobe I have and have seen all look excellently made, great examples. Don't really see anything obvious about the tsuka or tsuba being reproduced, but the photos would been to be a bit larger and show more detail. I am also looking on a phone, so small screen. The leather on the tsuka looks pretty genuine though and it's not something I've seen faked on 95s. Is there anything in particular that stands out, @Stegel? At best, this is a parts sword, at worst, there may be some replacement parts. Either way, such a shame as a leather clad sword like this would lovely to see, if original. I wonder if this is a Monkey special?
  6. Kobe had a very limited run of around 2,000 swords (that's the serial number range at least). I think you had speculated that Kobe may have changed their logo to the 'Ichi', Bruce, based on the serial numbers. My Kobe are all first rate too, really well made. Trystan is right, I think Mizuno was the one that stopped producing swords after getting only 1,000 serial numbers assigned and I am pretty sure Nick mentioned it being due to unsatisfactory results or production issues. How many swords Mizuno actually made is unclear, but considering the sample size and rarity, not many!
  7. We cannot discount it entirely, but there is zero current evidence, so balance of probably. I work primarily with the intention of taking an evidence based approach and noting speculationwhen that is what it is. I enjoy speculation, but it should always be noted as such. At this stage (not discounting the possibility of future discoveries (which to go off on a tangent we find more about 95s every year despite pessimistic views there is 'nothing new to learn')) we can say there is no evidence at all of Type 95 saya being painted grey as any kind of army, navy or arsenal practice. I think I have made my general thoughts and observations clear earlier regarding the myriad of different saya colours we typically encounter and how much evidence (and what type) exists to corroborate our current speculation. It's absolutely an interesting topic I'd like to discuss further, but with a critical mind and an openness to accept that sometimes it really is just a 'Bubba' job or something done by a veteran/owner/merchant past or present, for reasons known only to them.
  8. F&G discuss the Japanese catalogue for exporting arms and suggest this infers the exportation and adoption of the Type 32 by foreign militaries. I know they also mention (briefly) Type 32 with foreign military acceptance marks, but damned if I can find the exact reference. It's somewhere in one of their books, I'll keep looking and post when I find it. This example would (I assume) be one of those briefly mentioned swords with foreign military marks. Very cool to see, especially since I love 32s almost as much as 95s.
  9. Neither have I... would love to see a picture if anyone has one.
  10. No sword with anything but the light grey undercoat. The grey swords I've seen for sale that I can actually remember were not that long ago and they looked post war. The pattern 5 was so minty with paint and no patina. It was on eBay, maybe someone has a copy of the pics.
  11. I agree with Chris. I know F&G mention it and say this is reputed to be a naval NCO sword, but it looks awfully like an island sword. The fact they note that tells me they thought that likely too. Edit to add the later update from F&G regarding the 'Naval NCO' sword @BANGBANGSAN
  12. Thanks, Bruce. I try to keep it neat and to the point, but always have more little bits to add. I'm pretty open to the idea of 95 saya being altered for camouflage, but I think it's important to note that this is what we think. Just an educated guess, but not officially verified. I have a few swords with the undercoat. It is most evident early on, with the coppers and the transition swords, but seems to be somewhat sporadically evident in later swords. Some swords appear not to have any undercoat too, but it could just be that where there is wear, both the undercoat and basecoat were worn away. Edit to add a photo. I was going to be lazy, but decided to add a photo of a couple of good examples of undercoats. Unsurprisingly, the best examples I have are coppers.
  13. I've been reconsidering my opinion on black saya. There are enough examples with legitimate patina and no traces of previous paint that I concede some may be originally painted black by the arsenal. There are still a great deal that have been repainted (some period, some post war). There are also black bayonet scabbard and Type 32s sayas, adding some credence to the idea of a black saya for Type 95s. I note no archival evidence (that I am aware of) that legitimises this, so it remains firmly as speculation. There are also a great deal of different shades of green/brown and the 'red bean' colour appears occasionally. These are all on a lot of military equipment and to me are beyond doubt or speculation as their use is documented. The 'off cream' snow camouflage pops up rarely but seems to be period. There are also bayonets with the same cream coloured canvas winter camouflage covers, so I believe these legitimate wartime camo. Again, speculation. I've seen a couple of grey saya swords for sale. One was a wooden handle pattern 5 on ebay. The mint paint looked post war to me. I can't even remember the details of the other. Grey is also used as an undercoat on earlier swords, though it is a lighter shade. I have firm doubts about grey being some navy scheme. I'd like to hear the thoughts and evidence behind that. Speaking of evidence, I'd love to see some actual primary evidence of 95 sayas being painted in these myriad of colours, something official from the archives, but I doubt it exists or Nick would likely have found it by now. Last I remember reading from Nick is that he though even black being 'officially approved' was doubtful enough. Has that conversation progressed in my hiatus or is this all speculative as it always has been?
  14. I have no sources at all, but maybe one of the long time members (my gut says @Dave R) will remember something about swords being painted gold for the Emperors birthday? I can't even remember if it was literal or figurative and have no idea the source, just that it was raised years ago. My gut is that it was a wartime article from Japan and goes to the effect of 'soldiers raising golden swords in salute' or something similar. Another idea was post war repaint for theatres, so swords would stand out. From my own experience, I spoke to a lady at a military show who told me about her father bringing back a Japanese sword and painting it sky blue. Because he liked the colour. So could be that. Here is a picture of my own golden sword. The original paint is perfect underneath and acetone barely did a thing to the gold.
  15. Real, not rotter. If you can avoid handling it without gloves it'll last much better.
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