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Hello everyone,

I wanted to show you this tsuba I found. It's probably an iron civilian gunto tsuba. But unfortunately I have no further information about it. Perhaps one of you can tell me more.

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That's quite interesting Peter! After seeing the other example you found, it appears to be a private/civilian version with hints of IJA qualities, so made for a civilian blade that is being converted to WWII use. I've seen island swords with really poor attemts to replicate the IJA tsuba, but this is not what we're seeing here. They are not trying to "copy" the IJA tsuba, but simply add hints/flavors of it into the private tsuba.

 

The fact that you show 2 examples could mean they both came from the same shop, but they arent' identical so it opens the idea up that more than 1 shop was making these.

 

I'd like to see more examples if they can be found.

 

(I'm adding the other one just in case the website page ever goes inactive)

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After a long time search i could complete my fittings of a civillian koshirae.

 

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Peter could it be that the Tsuba that you have is the same one that was on the sword that you show that was sold? Maybe the person that purchased that sword removed the Tsuba and replaced with something else and sold the original? Just a thought.

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This is indeed cast iron, and they are very rare.

 

I have only ever seen another 1, and it was the one I owned.

 

Sadly for its rareity, they don't sell for much. I believe they were made for the 94s when transitioning to the 98

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In any case, it is good to know that it is not a chinese copy.

 

No Peter it's not a copy you doing right not to give it away. Oil it a little to prevent the rust.

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After a long time search i could complete my fittings of a civillian koshirae.

 

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 Super nice Chris! I am looking around for the cherry blossoms civilian set with the idea the have a koshirae made some day, hopefully with a nice gendai-to.

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I had one just like this that I donated to the board raffle a few years ago. Can't remember who ended up with it though.

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Here's one that isn't quite the same, but it's quite thin and resembles this in certain ways. It seems half-way between the OP example and a standard tsuba. It's on a civil blade mounted for the war.

 

Here: https://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/forum/ken-jasper-international-militaria-forums/Japanese-militaria-forum/11682681-ww2-Japanese-samurai-sword

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