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#1 Yasupimp

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Posted 26 August 2019 - 07:20 PM

Hi, 

i got that shobu zukuri Katana that i bought only for the shobu zukuri style.

When i recieved the Katana i had no informations about it and after i was checking it i translate the mei "Yasunori".

After i did some google research i found out many things about yasukuni-to and Yasunori. Now im not sure what to think.

 

Nagasa: 71cm

Nakago: 24cm

Moto haba: 3,26cm

Moto gasane: 0.82cm

saki gasane: 0,6cm

Sori: 1,5cm

 

I have only my phone to take photos, i hope thats ok and you guys can help me :)

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Posted 26 August 2019 - 07:27 PM

The mei looks newly made and not like Yasunori. Is there a big ware on the shape photo? Looks all not legit to me.

Btw the blades reminds me on one we discuss from the seller Komonji on ebay.



#3 Yasupimp

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Posted 26 August 2019 - 07:30 PM

No, it is only a bad reflection. No ware or other flaws so far :)


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Posted 26 August 2019 - 07:41 PM

I would go for a shinsakuto. The sword is nicely made. 



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Posted 26 August 2019 - 07:45 PM

Some more pics of the mei.

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#6 raymondsinger

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Posted 26 August 2019 - 08:08 PM

Was this sword purchased at auction as a bare blade with no shirasaya, habaki, etc? It seems fairly certain that it is a newly-made sword and I am doubtful that it is of Japanese origin.


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#7 Ken-Hawaii

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Posted 26 August 2019 - 10:05 PM

Oh, good! Glad it's not just me who thinks there's something out of kilter with this blade. The mei, ana, & the nakago all look...off.


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#8 PNSSHOGUN

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Posted 27 August 2019 - 05:54 AM

Same mei as the Komonjo ones.


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Posted 27 August 2019 - 02:19 PM

Same mei as the Komonjo ones.

It was only a matter of time before the first blades came to discussion here.


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#10 Yasupimp

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Posted 27 August 2019 - 09:56 PM

yea ok, i have read now every thread about komonji but the mate who bought it for me got it on ebay from someone like komonji or another account i found him yesterday on ebay "w12w2" or something. (found him in the komonji threads not sure someone said it is another account of komonji).

 

In the threads i found no 100% prove of where they really come from ? 

 

Ok some other questions i have for my Nihonto progress, the hamon and the activitys and hada are real ?


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#11 raymondsinger

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Posted 27 August 2019 - 10:11 PM

I believe that is the alternate account for Changtian_swords. Based out of Rockville Maryland and known seller of Chinese fakes.



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Posted 27 August 2019 - 10:18 PM

Yes, this is the seller.

 

https://www.ebay.ca/...ggAAOSw5K5dHUiW

 

A number of others here. You can even buy a Chinese-made Hocho Masamune.

 

https://www.ebay.ca/...0&LH_Complete=1



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Posted 27 August 2019 - 10:49 PM

These fakes are generally sold as bare blades which should be a cautionary clue to the uninitiated. Many of them have good gendai swordsmiths names inscribed and the nakagos all look like they were artificially colored by the same hand. 


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Posted 28 August 2019 - 07:11 AM

There is a silver lining I suppose as these are certainly some of the nicer chinese made swords available.


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Posted 29 August 2019 - 10:36 AM

Honestly, whoever made this, Chinese or Japanese, it looks good I think, recent, but good.
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#16 Yasupimp

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 10:05 PM

Hi, i spend my Free time the last week to Craft a habaki for the Blade. I finished the fitting and just wanna share some pics if thats ok :) ofc i only used traditional tools. (if modern files are traditional :D) 

I used a zink-silver alloy for the welding and had to do it twice after the first one Opend while fitting.

As u can see its a copper Habaki but if im happy with the final result i will gold foil it. :) 

The last step will be the Polish and maybe adding some classic Habaki pattern.

Im not doing anything like that professional and everything i know i learend in books and the Internet and some youtube videos, so i hope its ok and i dont break any rule of nihonto collecting ?

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 10:07 PM

Looks like a fine beginning Christian.
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#18 vajo

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 10:19 PM

You doing well Christian, nothing wrong with it.


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#19 Yasupimp

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 10:32 PM

Thanks i was a little unsure about it :)


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Posted 12 September 2019 - 11:00 PM

That’s a great job, Christian!
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#21 Yasupimp

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Posted 27 September 2019 - 10:37 PM

Just wanna post an update :)

I added some stripes and tried to gold foil it but i think that will need some little fixes after i got more gold :D (maybe i will get some real 0,02mm foil instead of the leaf gold in 24karat)

Also i made some more Pictures of the blade i want to share.

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