lonely panet Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Good morning all, I know most collectors don't really like the dress sword/parade saber, and if you asked me 1 year ago I would have been in the same boat. But I picked up 1 or 2 to complete a collecting gap and I was hooked, I found that there can be some interesting variations between them. Im posting some quick pics to show the difference in size, shape, length and quality. they are 2 company grade and 2 field grade Kyu gunto. please post pics of any other your dress swords if they are interesting versions please. regards Hamish 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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drbvac Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 What percentage of these would be acid etched stainless steel blades vs re-mounted or made at the time traditional nihonto ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kai-Gunto Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 They also appear with fuchi and seppas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeder Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I like the big beefy blade you have there. I should be getting another with the fancy handle, no mon, soon. My buddy forgot to bring it last time I saw him. I usually give all the dress swords I pick up to my little sister for some good Karma and to try and get her and her guy friends into collecting blades. -Brandon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdiddy Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Hamish, Nice examples. Is the large beefy blade a mounted nihonto? Below are pictures of a generals parade saber that I once had. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonely panet Posted January 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Hi Matt, That's a fantastic Generals dress sword, a pitty that you had to part with it but we cant keep everything. The beefy blade is infact a just a very large Nichol plated blade, but its very broad compared to a type 19 cavalary sword considering the blade construction is basically the same. the logo shown from the sword is unknown to me and not recorded in any books I have so im assuming it could be a early model. just out of interest whats the going rate for a generals grade dress sword? im in the market for one and a price range would give me something to save for. regrads Hamish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeder Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Nice General Grade sword, Matt. I'm still kicking myself for not buying the last one I saw because I was trying to please my wife and not go over board. -Brandon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonely panet Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Hi Matt, and every one else, iv finally got around to taking some photos of the beefy sword some people have asked for , the blade was a bit tricky to photograph but I hope look good. regards Hamish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brian Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Thanks for sharing Hamish. It's posts like this that will form the basis for a reference thread for anyone searching for info on these in the future. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonely panet Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Hi guys, Here's another odd example for the peoples. This one is much smaller, lighter and shorter. also the blade is dead straight, considering the early Japanese army was based some what on the victorious German army who had straight bladed dress swords it could be plausible that it might be inspired or influenced by Das Germans. regards Hamish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lonely panet Posted April 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Hi guys, its been a while but I have picked up dress sword with a aluminium gripe instead of the normal buffalo, same or Bakelite. the sword itself is longer then normal, but the overall quality is low so I assume it was made toward the end of 20s or early 30s. have a look regards Hamish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon MB Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Hamish, I dig this (oldish) thread..Anything more recent acquisitions to add? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonely panet Posted January 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 I'm a loner in this area I think. but found a few more pics of a group I was comparing for overall differences. missing is a very large dress sword with a blade of approx. 32 or 33 inches 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonely panet Posted January 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 found a few more odd balls. a very long one, one in what appears to be its original bag and an type 19 Kyu gunto flag sword. sadly most got sold off to fund my next investment, "KIDS" and its only getting worse. 2nd one on its way too no swords ever now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon MB Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Cool, many thanks Having kids is great, but expensive... Regarding these sabres, I think interest will grow over time, as they become relatively more scarce. We shall see.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vajo Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 Hamfish don't worry. Kids are a very good investment. The best you can do. And you will see after some time your swords will come back to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 I'm sure if you sell some to other collectors here we would get them back to you at reasonable prices! I'm still interested to see if anyone has found a Generals Grade Type 19 yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon MB Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 Interesting link on Kyu-Gunto below: https://imgur.com/gallery/lUKqe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonely panet Posted January 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 hope that guys got a grand daughter, coz I'm gona marry her just to inherit the collection 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontario_Archaeology Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 In the Imgur post it says he might be selling his collection when he is done. Does anyone know where? Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason b Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 I have found one with “YN” inside a diamond on the hilt. Wondering if it’s a repo. Although it seems of correct age. Any ideas or thoughts would be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Thanks for the stamp @Jason b, that's a new unknown shop logo. @lonely panet will be your best source as to authenticity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason b Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 Ok. Thanks Bruce! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiipu Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 On 1/6/2014 at 3:46 AM, lonely panet said: pt 2 The same logo you depict above can also be seen on a sword that was auctioned recently down in Australia. Lot: 729 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ_Tech Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 My Grandfather gave me this when I was a child, is this a Japanese WWII army officer Type 19 Kyu-Gunto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 Hi CJ! Yes, it's a Type 19, dress sword. I think most reserve the "kyu gunto" term for fighting blades, whereas this one is a dress or parade blade, most likely (might want to show a photo of the blade to confirm). There was a great deal of variation in these. But I have seen the "N" in diamond stamp before, but we don't know what shop that was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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