Infinite_Wisdumb Posted January 1, 2021 Report Posted January 1, 2021 Hello! Going through my small war collectibles stash during break and started looking deeper into this one. What im reading is potentially a Type 95 Shin Gunto with copper Tsuba. I welcome the boards thoughts on if I am off or not. Just starting my journey with this piece, even though it has been in storage for 20 years. Thanks! Quote
Infinite_Wisdumb Posted January 1, 2021 Author Report Posted January 1, 2021 More pictures of numbers 1 Quote
Infinite_Wisdumb Posted January 1, 2021 Author Report Posted January 1, 2021 Suya Shoten Trademark Four Cannonball Tokyo Factory Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted January 2, 2021 Report Posted January 2, 2021 Nice one Jesse! Close on the assembly line to mine! If you haven't already read these, start with Ohmura:http://ohmura-study.net/957.html Stu W at Warrelics: https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/Japanese-militaria/ija-type-95-nco-sword-info-228172/ Trystan's thread: And Steve, Shamsy, has an excellent history, which I'm not finding right now, if someone could post a link? Quote
Infinite_Wisdumb Posted January 2, 2021 Author Report Posted January 2, 2021 Thanks Bruce! I have been through Ohmura but hadnt seen Stus page What did you identify yours as? Likely the same as mine, given their manufacture timeline Do you prefer Choji oil? Jesse Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted January 2, 2021 Report Posted January 2, 2021 These are the first run of the Type 95 NCO gunto. They made less than 7,000 of the copper handled, officer-style saya Type 95s. So ours were made in the first third of the nearly 1 year production (going by memory here, but roughly mid-1937 to early 1938ish). I use a standard Japanese cleaning kit that comes with uchiko ball and choji oil. I've tried 99% alcohol and it does put a bit of a shine to the blade, but it doesn't remove the permanent stains. Quote
vajo Posted January 2, 2021 Report Posted January 2, 2021 5 hours ago, Bruce Pennington said: Trystan's thread: And Steve, Shamsy, has an excellent history, which I'm not finding right now, if someone could post a link? Trystan's thread? Nice sword! Jesse. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted January 2, 2021 Report Posted January 2, 2021 7 hours ago, vajo said: Trystan's thread? HA! Sorry Chris! Was in a hurry and had a "senior moment." 1 Quote
BANGBANGSAN Posted January 3, 2021 Report Posted January 3, 2021 There are some copper handle added second Mekugi hole like yours. Quote
Infinite_Wisdumb Posted January 3, 2021 Author Report Posted January 3, 2021 Thanks Trystan! Another collector who reached out to me from my linkedin profile wanted me to get a picture of the tang for a signature. I didnt think machine made blades had signatures? 1 Quote
BANGBANGSAN Posted January 3, 2021 Report Posted January 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Infinite_Wisdumb said: Thanks Trystan! Another collector who reached out to me from my linkedin profile wanted me to get a picture of the tang for a signature. I didnt think machine made blades had signatures? There is no signature on the tang of the NCO sword. 1 1 Quote
Shamsy Posted January 3, 2021 Report Posted January 3, 2021 Listen to the people here, steer well clear of that collectors advice and you'll do well! 1 Quote
Infinite_Wisdumb Posted January 3, 2021 Author Report Posted January 3, 2021 Sage advice Sham! 1 Quote
zook Posted January 4, 2021 Report Posted January 4, 2021 I see a lot of NCO swords popping up on Facebook militaria forums and folks tell the owner to examine tang for signatures .... !! Goodness . (Nice copper BTW!) 1 Quote
Infinite_Wisdumb Posted January 4, 2021 Author Report Posted January 4, 2021 Thanks Dan! Super excited about it. Trying to determine if I should work to restore it or not..dont want to decrease value. Needs a Sarute at the least Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted January 4, 2021 Report Posted January 4, 2021 I added a sarute and NCO leather tassel to mine. I wouldn't do much more as it's real easy to "clean" off the original patina, paint, and coatings from the various parts (seppa, tsuba, tsuka, etc). Warm, soapy water on a rag gets most of the grime. Oiled rag gets most of what's left. Might be tough to find a barrel screw to replace that wooden mekugi, but it can be done with enough time and searching. Quote
Infinite_Wisdumb Posted January 4, 2021 Author Report Posted January 4, 2021 Roger that Bruce, thanks! Saw a sarute on eBay for $70 - ouch! Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted January 4, 2021 Report Posted January 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Infinite_Wisdumb said: sarute on eBay for $70 - ouch! I know there is a guy at NMB who says he carries all sorts of parts, but I don't recall who that was. You might try posting a "want to buy" in the Want to Buy forum. Quote
b.hennick Posted January 5, 2021 Report Posted January 5, 2021 Try Mark Jones. He has a dealer section on the forum. Quote
BANGBANGSAN Posted January 5, 2021 Report Posted January 5, 2021 6 hours ago, Infinite_Wisdumb said: Roger that Bruce, thanks! Saw a sarute on eBay for $70 - ouch! It's kind of hard to find Nco Sarute .You might use the wire Sarute for Type 98 if you can't find one for type 95. Quote
Infinite_Wisdumb Posted January 6, 2021 Author Report Posted January 6, 2021 Oiled this guy yesterday, man. Feels introspective touching the blade of something so old and historic. Used a microfiber cloth and mineral oil (seems that choji oil is just mineral oil plus clove oil) Not sure how to polish out slight blackening - rice paper? 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted January 6, 2021 Report Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Infinite_Wisdumb said: slight blackening I haven't found anything that removes that. I have black spots on several blades and it seem permanent. I've removed the liners on some and found matching black stains on the wood, which I buffed with copper-wool, but it's not known if something in the wood is staining the steel or something in the steel is staining the wood. BTW, I couldn't check inside my copper liner as it is super-dooper sealed up! Quote
Infinite_Wisdumb Posted January 6, 2021 Author Report Posted January 6, 2021 thanks Bruce! ill live with it! Its not bad. Quote
Infinite_Wisdumb Posted January 8, 2021 Author Report Posted January 8, 2021 Hi Everyone. Wondering if any of these sarute are correct for this sword? What ya think? Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted January 8, 2021 Report Posted January 8, 2021 I like these 2, but the fat one is better. The 95 specialists are the ones to ask though. Quote
Infinite_Wisdumb Posted January 8, 2021 Author Report Posted January 8, 2021 Thanks Bruce! Those two look like what is on yours? Quote
Infinite_Wisdumb Posted January 8, 2021 Author Report Posted January 8, 2021 fat one indeed! you the man Bruce! Quote
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