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I have read this too in various texts and it suggests it shows the link to the Yamato origins of the founder. I confess I have not seen masame in any of the enju blades I have looked at in hand. They occasionally have some larger itame in addition but generally are tight ko-itame very much like Rai hada.

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Never seen masame hada in Enju blades. Enju is an offshot of Yamashiro Rai. There are only two Rai smiths where masame can be found: Rai Kunitoshi and one of his sons : Ryokai

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I’ve read many things in this book that left me perplexed when seeing real examples. I guess this is the limitation of a book. It only records the generalities and leaves aside the exceptions.

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Dear John.

 

I can certainly see why you like that one!  However as a pupil of Masahide and a shinshinto smith I think his connection with the Enju school is more of an honorific than anything else.

 

All the best.

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Hi John,

Sorry I didn't open the link but now I have I agree with Geraint. This smith was working about 450 years after the Enju school ceased production. Good sword and good smith just not an Enju school one

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I had a blade papered to Enjyu. It had what I thought scrap long chikei. I sold it in order to buy something very special. That blade ended up with juyo papers to Hosho. So, what I thought was chikei was masame hada.

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I think I have shown them before but the images below show an enju blade with incredibly long and bright kinsuji and in areas almost sunagashi looking like masame in the hamon. That's about as close as I have seen to masame in Enju but based on Barry's experience they are obviously out there.

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Barry, are you saying that the blade papered to Enju was subsequently repapered to Hosho and made juyo?  is that a sad story for you or was the special blade worth the sacrifice?  I love the activity in the ji of that blade.  

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Does anyone know the name for those dark lines in the ji of Barry's blade? They seem much too wide to be layers of masame lamination. 

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Don't know what they are called, but one sees a similar effect on Uda and Norishige blades, though not in masame form, but rather matsukawa hada.  

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I think they are formed from different types of steel with varying carbon content being combined in the jigane. You see it a lot in Northern province blades (such as Norishige) who are often described as having dark steel. These are not made of ji-nie as other activity such as chickei are

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One I have coveted for some time, Enju Kunihide:

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https://nihontou.jp/choice03/toukenkobugu/katana/769/00.html

 

Shinshinto, i don't think that example is relevant 

 

However even if it's not a generality we can see some hada with a hint of masame  in Enju school  

 

The right one has masame, the left one has ko itame nagare 

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Never seen masame hada in Enju blades. Enju is an offshot of Yamashiro Rai. There are only two Rai smiths where masame can be found: Rai Kunitoshi and one of his sons : Ryokai

 

 

Rai Kunitsugu too.

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I have read in several descriptions of Enju blades that have a nagare-masame hada.

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I believe many sources have nagare-masame as a trait for Enju as Francesco mentioned above. It is one of the difficult things as I think it can fluctuate, just a portion of hada flowing into masame can be described as nagare-masame. It is often said to be a trait often seen in Kyūshū swords (although of course it can be seen elsewhere too).

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I had a blade papered to Enjyu. It had what I thought scrap long chikei.

 

I remember you showing this blade to me in Tampa, and me telling you to buy it.

Lovely blade. I am surprised you sold it.

 

 

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