Tadayoshi Nbthk On Ebay

[Tom Darling]

I requested Matsu Kaze.jp to add pic of the( wakizashi) nakago, signed Tadayoshi, with NBTHK papers

All opinions would be appreciated.  I won't say a word!

 

 

Tom D.  .

[b.hennick]

Link?

[Ray Singer]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERB-HIZEN-TADAYOSHI-Japanese-Antique-Signed-Sword-in-Shirasaya-w-NBTHK-E839/292496292240?hash=item441a233990:g:NegAAOSwsTVaseDW

[paulb]

lots of warning bells without looking at the sword:

1. Old papers- these have been discussed numerous times here in the past and very recently. Regardless of where you stand on the validity or lac thereof the fact this is a sword by an important school and in Japan you have to ask why it has not been repapered.

2. No returns policy- I can accept it isnt easy to re-import but others accept returns so difficulty in re-importation is a questionable reason.

Looking at the sword:

the hada is A-typical for Hizen Certainly later generations (2nd and after) and the mei doesn't look right(in my opinion) for the Shodai

 

If this were right and in Japan it should have been repapered and would sell for considerably more I think.  

[Pete Klein]

Just curious - shouldn't this be signed ura mei?  Please correct me if I am mistaken as my primary interest is in fittings but I seem to remember this school signed the opposite from the norm.

[Ed Harbulak]

Hi Pete, you are 1/2 right. Main line Hizen Tadayoshi Katana are signed on the ura, but tanto and wakizashi are signed on the omote.

[Bazza]

IMHO definitely not shodai.  Was not the gojimei used by just about all the Tadayoshi until they became family head??  Note the shirasaya is tora-honoki, so someone thought the sword was "good".  Again, IMHO the mei is not right though the blade looks quite OK "as a blade".

 

BaZZa.

[PNSSHOGUN]

I have to agree, the blade itself is very nice, probably why it is billed as Shodai with Green papers.

[Jacques]

Not to say if it's soshin or not.

 

 

 

the hada is A-typical for Hizen Certainly later generations (2nd and after) and the mei doesn't look right(in my opinion) for the Shodai

 

 

 

Shodai Tadayoshi did not always produce Konuka hada, in he beginning of his career, he produced also Itame with some times some straight grains in the style of Yamato, it coincides with Gojimei. 

[paulb]

Good Morning Jacques

Sorry for not being clear but thats what the sentence you quoted says or at least implies. konuka hada is more typically associated with the second generation and later. As this isnt konuka hada if it were a Tadayoshi then it would have to be the shodai and I did not think the mei was right for him.