Stegel Posted May 11, 2015 Report Posted May 11, 2015 Hi All, I came across this whilst browsing the web, and have to admit i have never seen anything like it before. Has anyone else seen this shape of nakago before? It is obviously uncommon, but is there any reason for making it this way?? Cheers Ern Quote
hxv Posted May 11, 2015 Report Posted May 11, 2015 Ern, I don't think the nakago is in its original shape. It has been, uh, "reworked." Hoanh Quote
Stegel Posted May 11, 2015 Author Report Posted May 11, 2015 Wow, you guys are quick!!! Thanks for the speedy replies! Not sure why someone would do this? What is the point, or rather what do they wish to achieve by this 'rework'? Ern Quote
hxv Posted May 11, 2015 Report Posted May 11, 2015 Ern, Probably to fit the nakago into some torturous, contorted tsuka. Hoanh Quote
lonely panet Posted May 11, 2015 Report Posted May 11, 2015 yep, just the right shape for a nice Kyu gunto tsuka Quote
Barrie B Posted May 11, 2015 Report Posted May 11, 2015 Hamish, I must admit, that was my first thought as well.. Barrie. Quote
george trotter Posted May 11, 2015 Report Posted May 11, 2015 It is called uchi-zori nakago (reverse curve towards cutting edge). I have seen it before. I think the comment by Hamish is the correct explanation. The curved tsuka of the Meiji period gunto required this reverse curve. Usually the nakago was simplly shortened and reshaped with a file or chisel. It is uncommon to see this much trouble taken to re-shape the nakago.. Thanks for posting pics. Quote
lonely panet Posted May 11, 2015 Report Posted May 11, 2015 if it comes in the original koshire, this would be a very nice and rare addition to my collection hahahahha Quote
Grey Doffin Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 If the sword warrants the expense and effort, a properly trained polisher and/or a real swordsmith can put the nakago right. Grey Quote
lonely panet Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 why the hell would you want to do that!!!!! that would be a right shame, the condition of the nakago is very special point of the sword and its travel through history, after the samurai into the militarism of Japan. I would compare that to respraying john lennons rolls because you like the original colour more :o 1 Quote
lonely panet Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 im so shocked I have to comment again :o Quote
Grey Doffin Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 Hi Hamish, Since this is an older sword that has been altered to fit Gunto koshirae, if it were mine and deemed worthy of polish (sho shin mei of a desireable smith in otherwise good condition) I would want it returned to its natural state. Since I haven't researched the mei and I know nothing of the sword, my comments were meant to convey that the repair is possible, not that it should be done. Grey Quote
lonely panet Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 :o step away from the sword !!! preservation vs conservation vs restoration that old chestnut Quote
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