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I’m impressed! Excellent job Denis! You gave it its glory back! ... and yes, that stuff goes up to your head! Try not to commit Seppuku while you’re high! :lol

If you don’t feel like reading the whole thread, it mainly speaks about how some older papers made by the NBTHK and are not acknowledged today. So basically, someone living in Japan would have all the opportunities to have it submitted again and get newer papers. Therefore, it is easy to conclude two obvious facts: - It wasn’t resubmitted because the owner knows the attribution is Gimei - It wasn’t resubmitted because the owner fears the result will come as less prestigious But of course, there could be plenty of other, legitimate reasons, hence the saying “buy the sword, not the signature” (which in itself is funny since the sword is Mumei! :lol)

My reaction was: How are you sure it is fake? Not doubting your opinion at all, but pictures are always welcome in that kind of discussion, if only to educate those like me who probably couldn’t make a real from a fake yari unless it is pretty obvious.

Okay, not an expert so don’t take my opinion into account. I personally like it very much. Well polished and all. What I think others might say against it are: - Bungo isn’t a very (imho under appreciated) popular province with collectors. - Green papers are regarded as highly suspicious nowadays if the sword comes from Japan. As for me, the only thing that would give me a pause are: - The price (probably too high for my wallet) :lol: - I have a thing against horimono as I think they don’t add beauty to a blade but on the contrary, detract from it (but, hey, that’s just me) So in conclusion, i think it is a nice blade and I love the Hamon.

My reaction is... uhhh?

That is the feeling I got when I had mine in hand. It was my first Koto sword and it felt so light in comparison to a Shinto blade. Yet, it is razor sharp!

I own a Shoshu den hitatsura sword that shows a lot of similarity with yours, though the sori (2.2 cm) is less important. Mine is a shortened Muromachi tachi, so I wouldn’t be surprised if yours was one too.

Pas de quoi!

Wow! There’s a clear difference, and the paint underneath seems to resist. For the deeper parts, you may also try a needle with tissue soaked in solvent.

So I see that people still can’t get a definite opinion. Some say Showato, others Gendaito, I myself leans towards Gendaito with reserves. Shows how difficult it is to get clear cut opinions on swords sometimes. Imagine ourselves as a Shinsa team! In the end I guess the final verdict would be the one with most opinions but deep down, there would still be a doubt. Whatever, that’s a good sword, congrats to you Michael!

Happy for you, Jean! Happy for the collector! ... sad for me!

Hey Denis, since you’re from Belgium, I guess you can find the products we have in France. Try to get some Renov’pinceau. It’s very aggressive and will definitely remove the paint. I don’t think that there’s a slight chance you can save the original paint anyway, but at least, it will reveal the underlying details and won’t harm the metal. But to be fair, I have another fear. The lack of details makes me think that indeed it was painted, but also that someone tried to clean it with sand paper, hence erasing the detail. I hope I’m wrong though. EDIT: it’s an old product I had. Looks like environmental laws have sealed its fate as I can’t seem to find someone selling it. As every great product, the government is thinking instead of us and probably decided it was dangerous for us dumb humans. Now it’s probably been replaced by something ineffective, as usual.

We need to see more... different periods are represented here!

What a beautiful and delicate work. A masterpiece. I wish I had the funds!

Yes, my thought too. At least, it’s in an older koshirae.

It’s out of polish but genuine, as the others have said.

Yes, that was what made me hesitate too. The activities in the Hamon make me think traditional. Yet those spots scream oil tempered. Got to say I’ve never seen an oil tempered blade with that much activity so that leaves me perplexed.

Wow! Nice! You are talented!

It’s a late war NCO gunto type 95. Machine made with a wooden handle when raw material was starting to be lacking. There were a few variation of those. That one seems to be the first variation.

The whole naked blade in one shot plus close ups of the blade itself showing more of the Hamon and the surface texture if any. Look also for an unsharpened edge near the collar (Habaki). It’s often a telltale detail of a more recent blade (Shinshinto to today)

Can’t help you with so few pics, but seems handmade. Nice activity in the Hamon, too bad you don’t show more of the blade. Yes, two mekugi Ana, drilled, not punched but also a very clean nakago, crisp yasurime, maybe muji Hada (but hard to tell from the pictures). Probably not too old. But, please, bear in mind that I’m no expert!

The Hada on that first blade is gorgeous! And your photographic skills make me envious!

Pfff! The Chinese make better repros! ... joking, of course! That is beautiful!

Very true, Paul, I was basing my opinion on shape alone. It’s understandable from a non expert like me, but I find it strange that someone as experienced as Tsuruta San would do the same.

Completely agree with Tsuruta San. For me it doesn’t look Shinto.