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It is very similar to four from the set of 6 images above I would have thought that the on from the Field collection would be signed Many thanks

Thanks Steve Putting flesh on the bones Also in the Kinko Meikan

A bit more info Japanese SWORD-MOUNTS IN THE COLLECTIONS OF FIELD MUSEUM BY Helen C. Gunsaulus There is in this collection an iron tsuba on whose entire surface tendrils and blossoms of the kiri (Paulownia imperalis) are carved. It is signed "Shoami Kanenori," an artist hitherto unlisted in the records. The kiri design very often appears on Shoami tsuba. In Sesko’s book of mei he lists a Kanenori as late Edo Mutsu Aizu Shoami I would be nice if anyone can find the one referenced in the Gunsaulus book The tsuba:

I've seen this tsuba using a loupe and as you say it is incredible

No problem Jean and it did give me a start In the Haynes Index there is only one 'Kane' using that kanji but this was not the correct maker

Thank you both that's ideal

Hi Jean I'm sure you are right with Kane 包 but can't find a suitable kanji for tsune unless you think it may be this one 佐

Hi I can see this is Shoami but can't find the maker I'm sure I've seen the 1st kanji but can't find where. It looks like 垉 Last kanji 作 but even that doesn't look right

That looks a splendid set of armour

I think I'd takes a few images and use one for colour and one for detail If I sell I add a comment this it is slightly darker or lighter Detail is the most important but I've bought a few tsuba where the patina seems washed out or 'thin' but the seller will say the patina is fine and I've been disappointed yet

100% behind your action/post. There is need to change anything but this must be so obvious and is unacceptable Try to keep the NMB as it is and thanks for all your hard work I like it when someone gets a good deal and a good deal is when the seller and buyer are pleased with a sale I just saw a sale that I thought that was a nice buy and I felt like congratulating the buyer

Thanks Michael

Hi Michael It was this response that posed the question: They definitely do need sorting out; it's still a rats' nest. It's not something that is of any real interest to me so it can stop here.

Is it worth me starting a new post 'Sukesada' where NMB members can try to put it in some sort of order?

Something more to think about With so many unknowns I assume this post has run it's course Thanks

Thanks Piers, at this stage maybe the list can be trimmed down. I'm drawn to the distinctive kanji

With the previous info I was wondering if it was possible to remove smiths that this should not be? Re: - the usual early Sukesada mei starts with “Bizen [no] Kuni Ju Osafune…” while here I seem to see “Bizen [no] Kuni Osafune Ju…” -> food for thought….. Markus does however list some late Sukesada following the format here Quite distinctive writing, and for me the most salient feature is at the top left of each character, where the first stroke starts with a pronounced north-westerly pointing stroke. The angles of these starting 'brush' strokes are markedly consistent. Look at the top line of 長 for example. None of the 祐定 Sukesada Mei featured in my Japanese Fujishiro show such a habit. A mei added later? Below smiths that are within the suggested period Name Mei Gen Province Era Circa H/TT/FS Rating Sukesada 祐定 Bizen Tenmon (1532-1555) 1532-1555 15 / / Sukesada 祐定 Bizen Tenmon (1532-1555) 1532-1555 20 / / Sukesada 祐定 Bizen Tenmon (1532-1555) 1532-1555 20 / / Sukesada 祐定 Bizen Tenmon (1532-1555) 1532-1555 40 / / Sukesada 祐定 2nd Bizen Tenmon (1532-1555) 1532-1555 80 / / Sukesada 祐定 Bizen Kōji (1555-1558) 1555-1558 40 / / Sukesada 祐定 2nd Bizen Eiroku (1558-1570) 1558-1570 40 / / Sukesada 祐定 2nd Bizen Tensho (1573-1592) 1573-1592 15 / / Sukesada 祐定 3rd Bizen Tensho (1573-1592) 1573-1592 15 / 450 / Sukesada 祐定 Bizen Tensho (1573-1592) 1573-1592 15 / 450 / Sukesada 祐定 Bizen Tensho (1573-1592) 1573-1592 90 / / Sukesada 祐定 Bizen Keichō (1596-1615) 1596-1615 15 / / Sukesada 祐定 Bizen Keichō (1596-1615) 1596-1615 15 / 300 / Sukesada 祐定 Bizen Kanei (1624-1644) 1624-1644 15 / / Sukesada 祐定 1st Bizen Kanei (1624-1644) 1624-1644 15 / 350 /

My mistake

Circa 1600 - 1650?

Two more images

Hi My friend has a Bizen Sukesada blade With so many smiths with this name I wonder is it possible to pin it down to an approximate date?

Very nice presentation

Google translates states: 日本刀装武具研究会 to Important Tsuba (Mei-Tsuba).

Thanks Steve Much clearer now but I wondered about 'important tsuba (mei-tsuba)'. Why this is an important tsuba but I do now it is a rare mei

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