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One could guess that it had a functional purpose in terms of balancing a long or heavy blade? Is there any suggestion that tsuba were used in fighting to deliver a blow like the knuckle guard on a western blade? Other than functional reasons it has to be purely aesthetic?
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I've read that tsuba from Sado island tended towards the upper end of the scale thickness wise but I've no figures to back it up. I once had a wakizashi tsuba with a fukurin 9-10mm thick IIRC but the body of the tsuba itself was more slender.
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translation help needed for this originally (?) made blade
Shugyosha replied to kleber75's topic in Translation Assistance
Hi Jens, As Jean has said above, the shape is similar to that seen around Kanbun - during the 1660s but, for me, other things suggest it may be older (or has just had a hard life): that the blade has probably been shortened (which may give a false impression of the shape but I think the middle peg hole is likely to be the original, perhaps with the one added at the end of the tang for a second peg), the patina on the tang is quite a deep colour, that it has been polished down with little left of the hamachi and also the two character mei is less usual in the Edo period and it is quite worn. These factors might point to it being an older blade but again it could just be what it looks like but in not so good condition. The length of the blade might give an additional clue - if you were to measure that and add on the distance between the top and middle peg holes (which would indicate roughly by how much it has been shortened) then that might give a pointer but overall I think it is going to be difficult to be very precise. -
Hi Steve, That’s a nice looking tsuba. The school is Umetada ( top two characters on the left) the next two characters, the artist’s name, look like Ieshige. The next but is a bit more vague (to me) but it finishes with shichi ju sai - at the age of 70 years. I think the whole thing reads Umetada Ieshige no saku de shichi ju sai. “Umetada Ieshige made this at the age of 70 years”. You’ll probably get confirmation of the inscription or a better reading shortly and it should be possible to date it fairly precisely if we know the work period of the artist. Hopefully someone with Haynes or Wakayama can help there.
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Hi Lewis, Sometimes the mune got shaved on swords of all sizes so that kissaki could be saved. If you have “Facts and Fundamentals” there’s the suggestion in there that the straighter mono uchi in kamakura era blades results from that. It’s hard to tell in this case as the hadori is heavy but maybe that’s what happened? Satsuma age is an extreme way to achieve the same result.
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It's so it could be returned if he lost it on a battlefield. He had the same thing sewn into his kimono.
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Hi Chansen, to get an opinion you need to post all the information including price, size and whether it has papers and fittings or not. Better photos would help too as the mei isn’t legible (to me) and there are a ton of Kanemoto. https://nihontoclub.com/view/smiths/list?id_op=%3D&id=&name_op=starts&name=Kanemoto&kanji_op=%3D&kanji=&province=All&start_era=All&school_nid=All It’s perhaps a Mino wakizashi from the Muromachi period but it’s just a guess without more.
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Hi Alec, Have a look in the dealer section on here. https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/forum/88-dealer-showcase/ This is where individual members sell their stuff: https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/forum/130-swords-and-edged-weapons/ Also, if you click the Nihonto Info menu at the top of the page, then "links" there are four sections of commercial listings, some in the USA but you'll have to sift through. I've dealt with board members Ray Singer and Grey Doffin both of whom are in the USA: https://swordsofjapan.com/ https://japaneseswordbooksandtsuba.com/ I hope that gets you started.
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NCJSC 2025 To-ken Taikai
Shugyosha replied to Toryu2020's topic in Sword Shows, Events, Community News and Legislation Issues
Just trying to find a way to express my envy. Maybe double . -
Hi Victoria, Sorry to be blunt, but it means that what your partner purchased isn't an antique but a modern copy so, if he/she paid for an antique tsuba and/ or would prefer to own one, you may wish to try to return it and get your money back. The characters on the right of the blade groove say "Mogarishi" or "Soheishi" which is another way of reading the same characters. If you look at the tsuba at the top of this thread the signature is similar, Soten is the reading of the top two kanji on the left of yours I think, though because of the characters not being carved, they aren't very clear.
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Cheers Steve! Enjoy the show.
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Hi Lance, Not much to add from Geraint other than I've taken a stab at translating the mei on the signed fuchi - I'm not very confident in it as I can't find a similar name elsewhere on the internet so I may have misread a kanji or two, but it may get things moving and give the better linguists a prod to correct me. @SteveM I have: 古河住千氏冶作 - Koga ju Chishiya saku. Made at Koga by Chishiya. Koga city is in modern Ibaraki prefecture so that could be the place of manufacture, ju = residing at, followed by the artists name and then "saku" meaning "made". The part which I think is the artist's name, 千氏冶, I have down as Chishiya but again, it can be read in more than one way so wait and see.
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Hi Nicholas, On the tsuka: numbers on the right (I guess for assembling various parts) - [ ] 六五二 - 652 though there might be one above these, slightly obscured, perhaps a western zero? On the left, in katakana: カケス - Kaketsu which I think means "approved" - at least that's the only sensible thing that came up on a dictionary search, but others might know better.
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My suggestion would be to forget learning all you can about Japanese swords, I'd focus on learning as much as you can about as narrow an area of the market as possible. Go through the process that Piers has suggested - work out your budget and from there age of blade, type of blade, school or province, signed/ unsigned etc. Do this as quickly as possible then learn all you can about the market for blades in that category by reviewing the Japanese dealer sites. I think having an appreciation of quality in relation to price will probably be of more use to you in the short time available. By way of homework, you can always post a selection of ghost purchases on the board for critique so you are better informed and, erm, we get to play at spending your money.
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Hi Kevin, My first thought was that it might be a tiny spot of corrosion that had been polished over but had left a slight mark, now covered over by the new polish. For me nothing to worry about and certainly nothing fatal; it looks like an old blade and, if so, that would be in keeping with its age. That said, everyone has a different degree of tolerance and the charm of age for one person is no charm at all for others. If it helps, it’s hard to photograph swords in a way that reveals their activity without making the smallest flaw look like the Grand Canyon. I suspect you’ll never notice it but check it out once you have it in hand.
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This thread is also worth a look:
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curious about a smith and open for discussion
Shugyosha replied to Mike Noel's topic in Translation Assistance
Hi Mike, The mei is "Ando Kanemoto kitau kore". The "moto" is in a little unusual form and there's a Kanemoto whose name was Ando listed on the Japanese Sword Index is being a WW2 Seki tosho so maybe him. More than that, I know not however: https://www.japaneseswordindex.com/seki.htm -
@pin yin just to back up what Alex, Jean and Brian have said - I would suggest that you will quickly grow tired of generic items in poor condition - I've got a bunch of rusty metal in the shed that I never give a thought to. Save for a while, do your research and you will be able to afford an item that continues to give you pleasure and educate you and this need not be super expensive. For me, the sweet spot in collectiing comes where you can identify items that punch above their weight in terms of quality for price paid which is where the fun comes if your budget is not unlimited, as is the case for most of us.
