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No, it's about 30 minutes by car nowadays.
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Interested to hear some creative Ideas
Shugyosha replied to Nickupero's topic in General Nihonto Related Discussion
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Ah a chance to further reveal/ confirm my ignorance! Without reaching for the dictionary, so to paraphrase, we have a map of sword of sword making towns in Bizen, Bichu and Mimasaka from the Kamakura to Edo periods. The ones I can read off the top of my head, going roughly anticlockwise: Katsuyama, Mizuta, Matsuyama, Katayama, Okayama, Yoshioka, Fukuoaka, Yoshii, Osafune... They are sited in river valleys, presumably for access to water and as sources for iron sand and close to significant roads too. There's no scale to the map but they do all seem surprisingly close together and there's probably something else that I'm overlooking...
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Interested to hear some creative Ideas
Shugyosha replied to Nickupero's topic in General Nihonto Related Discussion
Maybe some political statement that the owner/ new owner thought it better to have removed? Alternatively an administrative error - the tameshi mei for a different sword was carved on this blade by mistake and so they had to reach for the Tippex. -
Please help me to identify the markings
Shugyosha replied to Barny Dots's topic in Military Swords of Japan
I think that generally if the sword has no stamps, even if it is in military fittings, it will be considered a gendaito rather than a gunto but the the military swords guys might correct me on that - the commentary on Teruhide suggests that he was making swords for higher-ranked officers so, at any rate, it's probably something better than the normal arsenal made blade. If you want to post some pictures of the blade itself you might get some more information. The marks on the seppa/ tsuba might be marks made to keep the parts together during assembly but may mean more than that @Bruce Pennington is your man for this. I've looked at the second one but I'm struggling with the second kanji of the name. It starts with 兼 "Kane" so the chances are he was working in Seki and the date is August in the 18th year of Showa so August 1943. No doubt someone else will chip in soon.- 16 replies
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Shugyosha replied to Barny Dots's topic in Military Swords of Japan
Hi Barny, The first one is Ishido Teruhide: https://www.japaneseswordindex.com/teruhide.htm Edit: this one may not be an arsenal made blade as it has a better quality mei than most of the arsenal made gunto - does it have a stamp?- 16 replies
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Kanesada Wakizashi, Gimei? period?
Shugyosha replied to GeneralBuyer52's topic in General Nihonto Related Discussion
I thought the tsuba has a bit of an Owari look which I quite like. As Alex says, it can be repatinated with some fussing or will repatinate over time and the lighting might be making it look a little worse than it is as there seems to be some reflection. The saya with the shell inclusions in the lacquer is a step up from basic urushi though my main concern would be with the blade as there's a lot of it not shown in the pictures and the clean up has blurred the crispness of the lines around the yokote, but at the most basic level it could make an interesting tsunagi. At something under £300 all in (including fees and taxes according to the OP) I feel that it is worth more than the sum of its individual components - even low grade period F&K, menuki, tsuba, saya bought individually would normally add up to more than that so I feel it would be a hard package to lose money on but by the same token a little waiting and saving could get something better. -
Kanesada Wakizashi, Gimei? period?
Shugyosha replied to GeneralBuyer52's topic in General Nihonto Related Discussion
Hi Jacob, As Michael says, it's hard to be definitive based on the pictures but at $400 price wise, I would suggest that it's reasonably low risk in that the price is about as bottom dollar as you get in this field and you would struggle to get a basic set of fittings for that. The scabbard has nice lacquer work and the tsuba might have some potential, but at this price point you should be prepared for the fittings to be put together from various sources rather than made for the blade. For me the two character signature and colour of the patina on the tang aren't out of keeping with the seller's blurb putting it at late 16th century but again it isn't in perfect polish and the picture of the point suggests that it has had a fairly agressive "clean". That said, you might be able to see enough detail to get some enjoyment from it and that might be improved with some work with an uchiko ball. Your call really, at worst it's a wall hanger and you might prefer to save for something better but I bought something similar for my first sword and paid rather more than that. -
There was the Kiyomaro too...
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On the right Edo Kanda ju…I think, the signature on the left is too vague for me.
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One could guess that it had a functional purpose in terms of balancing a long or heavy blade? Is there any suggestion that tsuba were used in fighting to deliver a blow like the knuckle guard on a western blade? Other than functional reasons it has to be purely aesthetic?
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I've read that tsuba from Sado island tended towards the upper end of the scale thickness wise but I've no figures to back it up. I once had a wakizashi tsuba with a fukurin 9-10mm thick IIRC but the body of the tsuba itself was more slender.
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translation help needed for this originally (?) made blade
Shugyosha replied to kleber75's topic in Translation Assistance
Hi Jens, As Jean has said above, the shape is similar to that seen around Kanbun - during the 1660s but, for me, other things suggest it may be older (or has just had a hard life): that the blade has probably been shortened (which may give a false impression of the shape but I think the middle peg hole is likely to be the original, perhaps with the one added at the end of the tang for a second peg), the patina on the tang is quite a deep colour, that it has been polished down with little left of the hamachi and also the two character mei is less usual in the Edo period and it is quite worn. These factors might point to it being an older blade but again it could just be what it looks like but in not so good condition. The length of the blade might give an additional clue - if you were to measure that and add on the distance between the top and middle peg holes (which would indicate roughly by how much it has been shortened) then that might give a pointer but overall I think it is going to be difficult to be very precise. -
Hi Steve, That’s a nice looking tsuba. The school is Umetada ( top two characters on the left) the next two characters, the artist’s name, look like Ieshige. The next but is a bit more vague (to me) but it finishes with shichi ju sai - at the age of 70 years. I think the whole thing reads Umetada Ieshige no saku de shichi ju sai. “Umetada Ieshige made this at the age of 70 years”. You’ll probably get confirmation of the inscription or a better reading shortly and it should be possible to date it fairly precisely if we know the work period of the artist. Hopefully someone with Haynes or Wakayama can help there.
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Hi Lewis, Sometimes the mune got shaved on swords of all sizes so that kissaki could be saved. If you have “Facts and Fundamentals” there’s the suggestion in there that the straighter mono uchi in kamakura era blades results from that. It’s hard to tell in this case as the hadori is heavy but maybe that’s what happened? Satsuma age is an extreme way to achieve the same result.
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It's so it could be returned if he lost it on a battlefield. He had the same thing sewn into his kimono.
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Hi Chansen, to get an opinion you need to post all the information including price, size and whether it has papers and fittings or not. Better photos would help too as the mei isn’t legible (to me) and there are a ton of Kanemoto. https://nihontoclub.com/view/smiths/list?id_op=%3D&id=&name_op=starts&name=Kanemoto&kanji_op=%3D&kanji=&province=All&start_era=All&school_nid=All It’s perhaps a Mino wakizashi from the Muromachi period but it’s just a guess without more.
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Hi Alec, Have a look in the dealer section on here. https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/forum/88-dealer-showcase/ This is where individual members sell their stuff: https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/forum/130-swords-and-edged-weapons/ Also, if you click the Nihonto Info menu at the top of the page, then "links" there are four sections of commercial listings, some in the USA but you'll have to sift through. I've dealt with board members Ray Singer and Grey Doffin both of whom are in the USA: https://swordsofjapan.com/ https://japaneseswordbooksandtsuba.com/ I hope that gets you started.
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Shugyosha replied to Toryu2020's topic in Sword Shows, Events, Community News and Legislation Issues
Just trying to find a way to express my envy. Maybe double . -
Hi Victoria, Sorry to be blunt, but it means that what your partner purchased isn't an antique but a modern copy so, if he/she paid for an antique tsuba and/ or would prefer to own one, you may wish to try to return it and get your money back. The characters on the right of the blade groove say "Mogarishi" or "Soheishi" which is another way of reading the same characters. If you look at the tsuba at the top of this thread the signature is similar, Soten is the reading of the top two kanji on the left of yours I think, though because of the characters not being carved, they aren't very clear.
