Kanji identification?

[gandindorf]

[John C]

Just a guess but it looks a bit like number 9 then hiragana KE or possibly Hiragana TA KE.

John C.

[gandindorf]

Do you know what the purpose or meaning be?

Edited Sunday at 06:29 AM by gandindorf

[robinalexander]

This probably should be in the translation section @Scogg but I will have a guess at ku-ju or 90 and if I get past that hurdle I will say it is possibly an assembly number.

 

Once it hits translation section we will know for sure. Don't put too much weight on my answer just yet.

 

By the way Caden, the tsuka and accompanying fittings look like nice and possibly higher quality.  I'm sure there would be others apart from me who might like to see more of your sword, if you were so inclined.

 

Rob

[ROKUJURO]

MITSU KE? Just an assembly mark, as mentioned before.

 

Edited Sunday at 10:21 AM by ROKUJURO

[Scogg]

@gandindorf @robinalexander

 

Relocated to translation assistance 

 

Best of luck,

-Sam

[gandindorf]

6 hours ago, Scogg said:

@gandindorf @robinalexander

 

Relocated to translation assistance 

 

Best of luck,

-Sam

I cant says my picture is to larg?

[gandindorf]

15 hours ago, robinalexander said:

This probably should be in the translation section @Scogg but I will have a guess at ku-ju or 90 and if I get past that hurdle I will say it is possibly an assembly number.

 

Once it hits translation section we will know for sure. Don't put too much weight on my answer just yet.

 

By the way Caden, the tsuka and accompanying fittings look like nice and possibly higher quality.  I'm sure there would be others apart from me who might like to see more of your sword, if you were so inclined.

 

Rob

[robinalexander]

Thanks Caden,

 

Looks old and very interesting to me.

 

Pierced tsuba, full set of seppa, aluminium saya which while not rare, is certainly a lot less common and often associated with higher class fittings.  Looks like the Tsuka also had a Mon attached ...most probably removed by the original owner prior  to/on surrender (WW2) ....quite common unfortunately.

 

@Nobody The Mei is not clear (is Emura a possibility ?) ..... is it possible to get a better picture of the kanji which look like their almost gone.  Sometimes talcum powder sprinkled on lightly then wipe off with the fleshy part of your palm.  That might bring it out a little more.  Who knows someone might have a crack at it.  If Nobody can't, then nobody can.

 

 

 

 

 

[PNSSHOGUN]

Can see "正 - Masa"

[Nobody]

右正心 - Ushoshin

Ref. 

 

 

[gandindorf]

39 minutes ago, robinalexander said:

Thanks Caden,

 

Looks old and very interesting to me.

 

Pierced tsuba, full set of seppa, aluminium saya which while not rare, is certainly a lot less common and often associated with higher class fittings.  Looks like the Tsuka also had a Mon attached ...most probably removed by the original owner prior  to/on surrender (WW2) ....quite common unfortunately.

 

@Nobody The Mei is not clear (is Emura a possibility ?) ..... is it possible to get a better picture of the kanji which look like their almost gone.  Sometimes talcum powder sprinkled on lightly then wipe off with the fleshy part of your palm.  That might bring it out a little more.  Who knows someone might have a crack at it.  If Nobody can't, then nobody can.

 

 

 

 

 

Ray. Hes great! translated the mei as "yanagawa Ushoshin" hes a little obscure ww2 smith listed as a Beski rank in a 1943 smith listing. And has been discussed here before. 右正心. But what's interesting to me is the mon being gone. Sad is is. Does that mean it was a self commissioned blade? 

[John C]

6 minutes ago, gandindorf said:

Does that mean it was a self commissioned blade? 

It's possible. In general, officers had to pay for their own type 94/98 swords unlike NCO's and the Type 95. I'm not sure of the exact process, however I suspect if one had enough money he could commission his favorite smith to make a sword. Smiths also worked with private companies to sell their swords. Also in that process, officers could order different quality of fittings from what was essentially a catalog.

 

John C.

[PNSSHOGUN]

Sometimes the officers removed or defaced their Mon before surrender. 

[george trotter]

12 hours ago, PNSSHOGUN said:

Sometimes the officers removed or defaced their Mon before surrender. 

Yes, I have three Type 98 mounted gendaito with mon.

All have 8 seppa, one has a cut through guards, two have aluminium saya.

One mon is picked off before surrender.

One mon is cut off before surrender (silver mon  'stub' is still in hole).

One still has its mon.

So, in my case, 2 out of 3 mon were removed.