Any idea what time period this could be from ?

[klee]

Good evening 

 

Bought this off of an ebay auction as just a display piece and not really part of my actual collection since im certain it s super gimei ( Mino No Kami Fujiwara Jumyo )

 

But I am curious to know what time period it might be from. It kind of looked shinshinto to me but im sure other here are far better at at making educated guesses.

 

I liked the blade for what it was and for a couple hundred dollars I did not mind it at all. Thank you in advance

 

-Kevin L 

[Bosco]

My newbie eyes, its late Muromachi ?

[Grey Doffin]

Possibly Kanbun Shinto.

Grey

[PNSSHOGUN]

Little Sori was popular during Kanbun Shinto, and later Shin Shinto. 

[YourBabyBjornBorg]

Hi! Can we have a look at the signature? This could be a genuine Shinshinto Jumyo.

 

Sugata looks Kanbun, but Kitae is Shinshinto-like, so it would help if we had specific data on this sword,

 

if this is notably long, broad and thick, then it is more likely a Shinshinto.

[klee]

59 minutes ago, YourBabyBjornBorg said:

Hi! Can we have a look at the signature? This could be a genuine Shinshinto Jumyo.

 

Sugata looks Kanbun, but Kitae is Shinshinto-like, so it would help if we had specific data on this sword,

 

if this is notably long, broad and thick, then it is more likely a Shinshinto.

Hello ! Thank you for the insight.

 

Yes here is the mei/nakago close up.

 

I am not very familiar with Jumyo but it seems the only Jumyo who signed like this was Kanbun Jumyo. I did compare the mei and it looked quite different than the nbthk authenticated ones from Kanbun.

 

It is also a long wakizashi ( 54cm ). The nakago patina also seemed a bit strange to me.

 

[YourBabyBjornBorg]

Edited:

 

Oh! I'm sorry, but this does look like a Gimei. 

 

Looking at the Nakago, this could be Shinshinto or even Showa IMHO.

 

Yes! I did not know people would do this, but just like what Rivkin san said, the Nakago is cleaned. So no Showa, but Shinto (or Shinshinto).

[klee]

3 minutes ago, YourBabyBjornBorg said:

Oh! I'm sorry, but this does look like a Gimei. 

 

Looking at the Nakago, this could be Shinshinto or even Showa IMHO.

Lol no worries.  I was very certain this was gimei when I bought it. It was just a pretty blade for $300 so I figued id enjoy it as it is 😊

[Rivkin]

Nakago was cleaned recently, i.e. the rust inside characters is actually quite old.

I am 80% for the signature being authentic. Probably 1670-1730, might be a lesser known generation in 1700s, it is often the case as sword market collapsed completely 1705-1710.

Not a typical style for the school, but one of Edo period's attempts at something Rai-ish.

[Jacques]

Obiously gimei 

https://www.samuraimuseum.jp/shop/product/antique-Japanese-sword-wakizashi-signed-by-mino-no-kami-jyumyo-nbthk-hozon-certificate/?srsltid=AfmBOooramjpL2uGeOLrUD0P28RwlYDsa4aUalfgD_SBsxJpnjvUi4dq

[Lareon]

I also vote Kanbun Shinto

[klee]

8 hours ago, Rivkin said:

Nakago was cleaned recently, i.e. the rust inside characters is actually quite old.

I am 80% for the signature being authentic. Probably 1670-1730, might be a lesser known generation in 1700s, it is often the case as sword market collapsed completely 1705-1710.

Not a typical style for the school, but one of Edo period's attempts at something Rai-ish.

Thank you for the insight as always. I was definitely not aware of such a dramatic collapse early 1700. 

[Ooitame]

I also agree Kanbun/Shinto.

[klee]

Thank you for the input everyone. Very much appreciated. It is a pleasant surprise to see everyone lean Kanbun. I thought it was a much newer blade.

 

If I may ask, what are some of the indentification points that suggests Kanbun as opposed to 1700+ ? I only ever collect and read into koto works and schools so my shinto knowledge is near non existant

 

Thank you in advance 

 

Kevin L

[Ooitame]

Hi @klee, just look at the overall sughata, the mune turns to masame, general health of the blade, Nakago patina (this sword not a prime example from cleaning or tight tsuka) etc

... Google Kanbun Katanas and you will see a pattern.