Tsuba mei

[kissakai]

Hi

I can see this is Shoami but can't find the maker

I'm sure I've seen the 1st kanji but can't find where. It looks like 垉 

Last kanji 作 but even that doesn't look right

 

[ROKUJURO]

Grev,

first name KANJI looks like KANE to me. (KANETSUNE?)

[kissakai]

Hi Jean

I'm sure you are right with Kane 包 but can't find a suitable kanji for tsune unless you think it may be this one 佐

 

 

 

Edited May 23, 2023 by kissakai
kanji added

[Nobody]

包矩 - Kanenori

[kissakai]

Thank you both that's ideal

 

[ROKUJURO]

Sorry, I was on the wrong track when I thought of this KANJI:  恒

[kissakai]

No problem Jean and it did give me a start

In the Haynes Index there is only one 'Kane' using that kanji but this was not the correct maker

 

[kissakai]

A bit more info

Japanese SWORD-MOUNTS

IN THE COLLECTIONS OF

FIELD MUSEUM

BY

Helen C. Gunsaulus

 

There is in this collection an iron tsuba on whose entire surface tendrils and blossoms of the kiri (Paulownia imperalis) are carved. It is signed "Shoami Kanenori," an artist hitherto unlisted in the records. The kiri design very often appears on Shoami tsuba.

In Sesko’s book of mei he lists a Kanenori as late Edo Mutsu Aizu Shoami

I would be nice if anyone can find the one referenced in the Gunsaulus book

 

The tsuba:

 

[SteveM]

There are two Kanenori (包矩) listed in Wakayama. Both are from Aizu. One is listed as coming from the Shōami school. The other has no affiliation. Both are late Edo. Wakayama speculates that they are both one and the same person. 

[kissakai]

Thanks Steve

Putting flesh on the bones

Also in the Kinko Meikan

 

 

[Spartancrest]

A cobbled together 'Daisho' both signed Shoami Kanenori from my collection.

A post from way back in 2012 shows this one with the same kanji:  https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/10570-tsuba-translation/

 

 

[Spartancrest]

Grev, might it be this image you are looking for? It doesn't show the signature.  Catalog Number: 131036.nosub[1]

[kissakai]

It is very similar to four from the set of 6 images above

I would have thought that the on from the Field collection would be signed

Many thanks

[kissakai]

I had this from a curator at the Field museum and it is signed but not the best image

 

[Spartancrest]

I enhance the image from the website and added the image you posted - but from the look, the signature is not oriented the same as the others above. Is this rearrangement of the mei something that is common?

 

 

[kissakai]

It does seem unusual but I know as soon as you say there is a rule it gets broken

When I read up on school characteristics there will always be exceptions!

[Shugyosha]

On 5/24/2023 at 8:19 PM, kissakai said:

A bit more info

Japanese SWORD-MOUNTS

IN THE COLLECTIONS OF

FIELD MUSEUM

BY

Helen C. Gunsaulus

 

There is in this collection an iron tsuba on whose entire surface tendrils and blossoms of the kiri (Paulownia imperalis) are carved. It is signed "Shoami Kanenori," an artist hitherto unlisted in the records. The kiri design very often appears on Shoami tsuba.

In Sesko’s book of mei he lists a Kanenori as late Edo Mutsu Aizu Shoami

I would be nice if anyone can find the one referenced in the Gunsaulus book

 

The tsuba:

 

Love that tsuba! 

[kissakai]

FYI

The tsuba arrived today from Japan in four days - amazing

John did you like my tsuba or the one from the Field Museum?

I quick go with antler horn got rid of the mark at 8 o'clock and revelled a bit more of the tendrils

 

 

[Atomic Logic]

On 5/24/2023 at 8:19 PM, kissakai said:

A bit more info

Japanese SWORD-MOUNTS

IN THE COLLECTIONS OF

FIELD MUSEUM

BY

Helen C. Gunsaulus

 

There is in this collection an iron tsuba on whose entire surface tendrils and blossoms of the kiri (Paulownia imperalis) are carved. It is signed "Shoami Kanenori," an artist hitherto unlisted in the records. The kiri design very often appears on Shoami tsuba.

In Sesko’s book of mei he lists a Kanenori as late Edo Mutsu Aizu Shoami

I would be nice if anyone can find the one referenced in the Gunsaulus book

 

The tsuba:

 

 

Grev,

 

i recently picked up this Chosu School tsuba. granted no where near the same intricate detail as your one but still interesting to see that another school thought this design was beautiful enough to reproduce.

 

mei reads: Choshu Hagi Kuwaji Saku

[ROKUJURO]

Tim,

it is probably CHOSHU HAGI JU KAWAJI SAKU   (https://www.aoijapan.com/tsubachoshu-hagi-ju-kawaji-saku-2/)

[Atomic Logic]

On 5/3/2025 at 1:49 AM, ROKUJURO said:

Tim,

it is probably CHOSHU HAGI JU KAWAJI SAKU   (https://www.aoijapan.com/tsubachoshu-hagi-ju-kawaji-saku-2/)

Jean, you are entirely correct. i missed the JU while typing it out.

 

[ROKUJURO]

Tim,

I only posted because you wrote " mei reads: Choshu Hagi Kuwaji Saku " instead of KAWAJI. Small typos often prevent you from finding information online.