commemorative WW2 Japanese sword

[Swords]

Any one ever see a sword like this?

quite unusual dose it give any value?

[vajo]

looks like an ordinary showa-to.

[Matsunoki]

Kissaki looks heavily reshaped?

[Swords]

It dose look like it and the tip is Bent 

I know it’s a Showa but thought it added value with the kanji being a commemorative 

[Bruce Pennington]

I have seen many swords use that style of dating system, but I do not think I have ever seen one actually put the words “commemorative sword”. It is probably referring to the 26th hundred year anniversary of the founding of Japan.
https://www.oldtokyo.com/2600th-anniversary-of-the-founding-of-Japan-1940/

[Swords]

Interesting Thanks Bruce I guess it’s still a Showa-to sword not much value there

[Bruce Pennington]

2 hours ago, Swords said:

Showa-to sword not much value there

Not compared to a gendaito or nihonto.  However, depending upon the condition of all 3, I've seen a showato sell for more than the other 2.

[David Flynn]

Gendaito are Nihonto.   For that matter, so are Showato.

[Brian]

Well, if we want to be technical, Showato are Gendaito

[David Flynn]

Yes they are.  In Japan, Gendaito are called Showato and Showato are called Gunto.

[Brian]

For those who aren't sure what we are talking about...
These are terms that have been co-opted into the collecting fraternity to refer to handmade or mass produced.
Actually, Showa-to means Showa sword...referring to the Showa period 1926 to 1989. So even Gendaito are Showato. Gunto are Army Swords. Gendaito means swords made since the Meiji Restoration between 1868 and now.

[Guest Simon R]

8 hours ago, Brian said:

Well, if we want to be technical, Showato are Gendaito

They are not just Gendaito, Brian - they are Hozon worthy Gendaito (so long as you file off the stamp)! 🤔

 

https://www.Japanese-sword-katana.jp/未分類/1610-1123.htm

 

PS: Sorry for repeating this link from another thread but it's a pretty shocking development.

[Brian]

It's been happening for a long time now. Seen quite a few on the forum. No change of legal policy, I think it's a combination of them loosening the evaluations a bit, along with maybe favours depending on who is submitting.

[Guest Simon R]

3 minutes ago, Brian said:

It's been happening for a long time now. Seen quite a few on the forum. No change of legal policy, I think it's a combination of them loosening the evaluations a bit, along with maybe favours depending on who is submitting.

But oil-quenched.....? 😳 Blimey O'Reilly!

[Bruce Pennington]

1 hour ago, SRDRowson said:

But oil-quenched.....? 😳 Blimey O'Reilly!

There has even been a Mantetsu papered, the discussion can probably be found on NMB with good search skills.  

 

The thought has turned to include blades of noteworthy historical value, regardless of manufacturing methods.

[DTM72]

22 minutes ago, Bruce Pennington said:

There has even been a Mantetsu papered...

 

And because of that, it could be said that a Chinese sword has gotten Hozon papers. 

[rematron]

It's a little bit of a "All Scotch is whiskey but not all whiskey is Scotch" kind of thing? 

[robinalexander]

Off topic admission.....Hey Simon...no offence meant but your 'avatar thingo' just cracked me up completely. 

Thankyou