Poorly titled eBay listing

[Bridges]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185695182519?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=NrWr9WSdQp2&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=5b5Igx0HQ7e&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

The Bo-hi groove does not extend all the way to the edge and the brass does not look very aged. Thoughts?

[b.hennick]

It is strange that there are no photos of the tang? I wonder what is wrong with it...

[Bridges]

@b.hennickdo you think it’s authentic? The blades with blood grooves I have seen typically go to the length of the blade, this one stops short. I asked for pics of the tang, seller says no markings 

[vajo]

False Forum

Brian could you put it in the right one?

[Bridges]

@vajomy bad, I must have misread the eBay portion of the forum description

[Tensho]

Well, it's somewhat pieced together. Brass and copper seppa are chinese made and filed to fit. Can't comment on the O-Seppa, but it sure looks like file marks on those too. Chuso looks "suspect" compared to the finish wear on the fuchi. Doesn't look right to me either, but I'm not an expert on these. 

 

As far as Hi go.

http://www.ksky.ne.jp/~sumie99/grooves.html

 

[Bridges]

Wow, @Tenshohow are you able to tell they’re Chinese? I’m intrigued 

[Tensho]

7 minutes ago, Bridges said:

Wow, @Tenshohow are you able to tell they’re Chinese? I’m intrigued 

I have a few of the same ones. Nakago-ana are punched "wide" on the brass ones and far to "long" on the copper ones. Sellers sold items show some of the same.

[Bridges]

14 minutes ago, Tensho said:

I have a few of the same ones. Nakago-ana are punched "wide" on the brass ones and far to "long" on the copper ones. Sellers sold items show some of the same.

I’m definitely going to make a note of this for future reference!

[b.hennick]

The tang does not look right. The shinogi line should is not straight. The end of the tang is off too. I am not bothered by the grooves. 

[DoTanuki yokai]

The Hi ends because the Kasane gets thin after it like a Naginata or Unokubi Zukuri. 

[DTM72]

I agree with Christian, it is an unokubi-zukuri but with kogarasu-maru style. can honestly say I have never seen this done before. Correct example linked below. I believe this may have been a Murata or Zohito blade originally mounted in a Type 19 kyugunto mounting causing the nakago to be odd shaped. I also guess that it was re-fitted to a type 98 mounting probably by the seller. Looking closely at the tsuka, the ito looks to have been pushed too far away from the fuchi. Under the ito is shagreen (sharkskin) instead same' (rayskin), so a tiny bit of rarity there. 4 of the seppa are definately Chinese pieces, but the pierced tsuba and copper seppa look to be good quality type 94. Tassel looks to be correct for company grade officer. 

 

https://japanesesword.com/archived-pages/2017/7/28/rare-murata-to-kogarasumaru-to-dress-saber-in-shin-gunto-mounts

 

Maybe our resident experts can help a little more on this one. @Bruce Pennington @george trotter @Kiipu

[Bruce Pennington]

I'm with Dan's summary on this one.  Adding pics for the day the sale pages go dead.

 

More evidence of a 'piece-together' - the koiguchi and saya are painted black, yet the fuchi and tsubs/seppa are not.

 

Fat tsuba and centered chuso of a Type 94, but like already stated, newly made latch and seppa

 

[Tensho]

I think the habaki is chinese too. Looks like typical rounded shape. It looks cut for the "Ha" too.