scratches on the shinogiji

[djcollection]

Should I just leave it it or can I do something about it? I think the blade got scratched down the track inside the saya.

 

[ChrisW]

A new shirasaya might be the best option.

[Death-Ace]

I agree with Chris; however, it may be worth it to separate the shirasaya in the halves to see what the issue may be. Whether dirt, to enclosed, etc.

 

Sometimes, a cleaning is all that is needed, but in other cases, it is best to have a new one made. Unless someone else has been handling it and drawing inappropriately? Wouldn't think it would look like that in that one section though.

 

Hope this helps!

[PNSSHOGUN]

Looks like some grit caught in the Saya.

[Ken-Hawaii]

I assume you've already shaken the saya to see if anything falls out. Unless you use this blade in iaido, I can't see it being drawnall that often, but, when you do, draw it very slowly ha upwards, & listen for any sound. Maybe even put your ear against the saya (without cutting yourself, of course).

[djcollection]

A new shirasaya might be the best option.

The best option will be an expensive one :D

[djcollection]

Thanks Lev, the damage is done and no more additional scratches found. I'll just leave it as there's no way I can fix the existing scratches.

I agree with Chris; however, it may be worth it to separate the shirasaya in the halves to see what the issue may be. Whether dirt, to enclosed, etc.

Sometimes, a cleaning is all that is needed, but in other cases, it is best to have a new one made. Unless someone else has been handling it and drawing inappropriately? Wouldn't think it would look like that in that one section though.

Hope this helps!

[djcollection]

I reckon so, especially from the right side of the blade - multiple scratches in the same direction.

Looks like some grit caught in the Saya.

[djcollection]

Thanks Ken, already tried that and no unusual sound heard.

I assume you've already shaken the saya to see if anything falls out. Unless you use this blade in iaido, I can't see it being drawnall that often, but, when you do, draw it very slowly ha upwards, & listen for any sound. Maybe even put your ear against the saya (without cutting yourself, of course).

[Stephen]

Tap the mouth on the table...lightly ..on white sheet of paper

[djcollection]

Done that, nothing came out.    

Tap the mouth on the table...lightly ..on white sheet of paper

[Ken-Hawaii]

The tool to clean out a saya is a yasuri, but I can't find any place that still carries them. Maybe a rifle cleaning tool, carefully cleaned of oil, with a nice, thick swab, could clean out the insides, or at least could give you an idea of what is causing the scratches.

[djcollection]

Thanks Ken, I used a long-neck brush as shown in the photo. One or two very tiny wood dust came out when I was done and shook the saya upside down. Not sure if that's the cause of the scratch.

 

The tool to clean out a saya is a yasuri, but I can't find any place that still carries them. Maybe a rifle cleaning tool, carefully cleaned of oil, with a nice, thick swab, could clean out the insides, or at least could give you an idea of what is causing the scratches.

 

[Ken-Hawaii]

That looks like a good substitute, assuming it's long enough. Whatever is causing the scratches must be embedded fairly deep if that didn't break it loose. Wood dust won't scratch steel, so it's either something metallic or a tiny piece of stone, although I cant think of how either of those got into your saya. Any chance it could have happened while the blade was out?

[Ken-Hawaii]

Ah, I see in your other post that this is an iai blade, which leads to lots of other possibilities. Does your sensei allow a sharpened blade to be used in your dojo? I hold yondan, & Sensei doesn't even let me use shinken.

[Stephen]

You can lightly dust blade with talc. Do a slow in n out ...it will show where its touching

[Greg F]

Ive used a shotgun cleaning kit. There is a brush similar to yours that reaches all the way that i used on an old say and discovered a previous owner had shoved tissue in the end of the saya and the brush was able to drag it out.

Its definitely a bad idea to use shinken and a much worse idea to use nihonto.

 

Greg

[djcollection]

I don't have talc, what's a good substitute? Can I use corn starch or baby powder? 

You can lightly dust blade with talc. Do a slow in n out ...it will show where its touching

[djcollection]

The saya only stayed indoor while the blade was out, so not sure how something like that might got into it. I've checked the side of the saya with a flashlight and couldn't see anything suspicious on corresponding side.

 

That looks like a good substitute, assuming it's long enough. Whatever is causing the scratches must be embedded fairly deep if that didn't break it loose. Wood dust won't scratch steel, so it's either something metallic or a tiny piece of stone, although I cant think of how either of those got into your saya. Any chance it could have happened while the blade was out?

[djcollection]

Not at moment, but this blade is not intended to be used as I have other functional reproduction ones to use for tameshigiri.

 

Ah, I see in your other post that this is an iai blade, which leads to lots of other possibilities. Does your sensei allow a sharpened blade to be used in your dojo? I hold yondan, & Sensei doesn't even let me use shinken.

[djcollection]

Not with a nihonto for most of us.

Ive used a shotgun cleaning kit. There is a brush similar to yours that reaches all the way that i used on an old say and discovered a previous owner had shoved tissue in the end of the saya and the brush was able to drag it out.
Its definitely a bad idea to use shinken and a much worse idea to use nihonto.

Greg

[Stephen]

Baby powder is talc. Just a dusting.

Uchiko would be best.

[djcollection]

Thanks Stephen!

Baby powder is talc. Just a dusting.
Uchiko would be best.