BreizhSamourai Posted November 11, 2018 Report Posted November 11, 2018 Hello I looked for a luxury tassel for quite a lot of time but was pretty hard to grasp what it was from litterature, given i never saw a clear example (I read the opposite color is on each side but even on Ohmura website it is hard to get it given pictures are not zoomed in). Is this one of them? Thx for your thoughts Eric Quote
raaay Posted November 12, 2018 Report Posted November 12, 2018 the ware makes me think it could be , but ?? it does not look right IMHO Quote
Dave R Posted November 12, 2018 Report Posted November 12, 2018 It looks like a standard army tassel for a Shin-Gunto. 1 Quote
dwmc Posted November 13, 2018 Report Posted November 13, 2018 I think Dave R is correct. The tassel is a standard army issue. ( Not the upgrade type.) The opposite color thread in the photo is more likely due to thread mis-alignment during manufacturing. Dave M Quote
raaay Posted November 13, 2018 Report Posted November 13, 2018 All the tassels I have and I have seen , I have never seen the blue section overlapping around the brown edges , it may be the photos have been enlarged and they are causing this effect? 1 Quote
Ed Harbulak Posted November 13, 2018 Report Posted November 13, 2018 A blue and brown tassel that I obtained with a sword a good number of years ago has the blue coming around both edges of the brown. I'm sure there were a number of different manufactures of these tassels and there are bound to be slight differences between them. The tassel pictured by the OP looks genuine to me. I have also seen a few where the blue color has faded and almost looks green. 1 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted November 13, 2018 Report Posted November 13, 2018 It's more common to see the Field Grade red & brown tassels with the deluxe overlapping edges. Quote
Stegel Posted November 13, 2018 Report Posted November 13, 2018 I think the OP tassel is std quality aswell. Here's some pics to help see the difference as i understand it to be. Standard quality tassel - no colour change at edges when looking at the solid colour. Top quality tassel - opposing colours appear at both top and bottom of the flattened strap. I agree with Ed about the various manufacturers supplying the IJA. I have seen an almost green tassel instead of brown for the navy, but never with the brown company grade for army use. Some of the army ones i have seen and owned had the "blue" appear to be almost purple. Here's another where the actual tassels are yellowish on one and more of a darker gold on the other, however both are Std quality when looking at the straps. Here's a Std Grade General rank tassel with Yellow thread zig-zag instead of the gold bullion thread. Hope this helps you out some. 4 Quote
Stegel Posted November 13, 2018 Report Posted November 13, 2018 Hello I looked for a luxury tassel for quite a lot of time but was pretty hard to grasp what it was from litterature, given i never saw a clear example (I read the opposite color is on each side but even on Ohmura website it is hard to get it given pictures are not zoomed in). Is this one of them? Thx for your thoughts Eric Got this from Ohmura's site. The higher Quality tassel we are looking at is the blue/brown Company Grade one. It may be confusing at first, as it is placed next to a Standard General's Tassel for comparison, but i think you get the picture now. ------> ------> 2 Quote
IJASWORDS Posted November 14, 2018 Report Posted November 14, 2018 Here are a couple I have. The General tassel is the one shown in Dawson's book page 159. Hope they aid the discussion. 2 Quote
BreizhSamourai Posted November 15, 2018 Author Report Posted November 15, 2018 on all the other company officer tassels I have, you always have some brown on the blue but never some blue on the brown part (which are a bit like on ohmura website & like in the pics attached); hence the reason I thought this one was maybe more high end (given it has blue on brown and brown on blue). I would be skeptic about the machine error, it looks rather nicely done ps: I like the General ones too bad they are not common to find Quote
dwmc Posted November 15, 2018 Report Posted November 15, 2018 Erick, The above thumbnail tassel photo(#11 post) appears to be a very nice Company grade officers tassel yet a standard issue also. Even though the tassel in your first post may be rather nicely done. Ray, in post #2 mentioned something doesn't look right. I agree, something has twisted the brown stitching to one side and blue to the other. How it happened...any ones guess. Stegel, in post 8 and 9 simply could not have explained the difference between standard and deluxe quality any better. Here are a couple of mine also. One is an Company Grade officers tassel with opposite blue stitching (which will be in a future thread due to rare v stitching) the other is attached to one of my Shin-gunto's and is of standard quality. Hope all comments above have given you a better insight... Dave M 2 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted November 16, 2018 Report Posted November 16, 2018 There's a fine example with Type 94 mounts on Bill Rannows site: http://www.artswords.com/a_signed_koto_katana_in_minty_gunto_mounts_101818.htm 4 Quote
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