John A Stuart Posted April 7, 2008 Report Posted April 7, 2008 Hi All, A couple of jumonji yari for fans of those. One is mumei the other is Kuniteru. John Quote
Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini Posted April 7, 2008 Report Posted April 7, 2008 Thanks John. As you know I've a soft spot for jumonji. Quote
Brian Posted April 7, 2008 Report Posted April 7, 2008 Me too I have one that desperately needs a polish oneday when I have extra cash, and a polisher is feeling brave. :lol: I also have one that is slightly smaller, but has a nakago like a huge yajiri with no mekugi ana. Will have to post pics, as I wonder about it. Doesn't seem to have a hamon, so either ceremonial or some large presentation yajiri.. Brian Quote
Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini Posted April 7, 2008 Report Posted April 7, 2008 You have TWO ? damndamndamn... and a polisher is feeling brave. Likely the most difficult shape to polish. Up to 8 cutting edges and 3 yokote Quote
remzy Posted April 7, 2008 Report Posted April 7, 2008 Pssst Brian, Mr Skebo, whom you refered to me, is into polishing yari, it would seem! Oh and, im counting 4 yokoto! Quote
slavia631 Posted April 7, 2008 Report Posted April 7, 2008 John, that wouldn't happen to be at Matsuyama Castle, would it? I seem to remember seeing those yari on display there, and I know that photography is allowed there, which is rare. Have you made your day-trip to OmiShima yet? Make sure to take note of all you see, because photography is not allowed, of course. have fun, Andrew G. Quote
Min Lee Posted April 8, 2008 Report Posted April 8, 2008 Jumanji Yari! I love Jumanji yari! Thanks for sharing. Quote
John A Stuart Posted April 8, 2008 Author Report Posted April 8, 2008 Yes Andrew, All these swords etc. are from Matsuyamajo. I was so surprised when the attendant said go ahead and the crowd was great. I was going to go to Omishima from there but it was a hastle. I am now in Mihara which is a better ferry ride and gives more time looking than sailing. John Quote
loui Posted April 11, 2008 Report Posted April 11, 2008 Always nice to see pictures of jumonji yari. There is a museum in Japan somewhere, they have a large collection of yari and restore them frequently for their collection, when doing so they take some very nice pictures - I'll see if I can find them. I have been working on a very nice Jumonji I have for about 4 years now, I tend to push it aside when other peoples work comes in or when my hands get chewed up. I don't usually wrap the blades when polishing as I like the feel of the blade and find it I know where it is on the stone better - but that results in many small filets of flesh over the course of a day. I'll probably be done this Jumonji in a couple of years, not sure what I will do with it when done. I polished one of these that had a part of a tine missing, the amount of work it required was incredible - what is done to one side has to be done to the other:) Picture of the jumonji I am currently working on: http://www.japaneseswordcollector.com/hisa/hisa4.jpg This jumonji has a nice inscription on it, the smiths name, a special order as a gift to a person, and the best part is that it is stated that it was made in the style of Kanabo Masazane (mid 1500's). So, it is historically a valuable piece just based on the written history and because it is an example of a work - as compared to a picture or oral tradition. Picture of the mei: http://www.japaneseswordcollector.com/hisa/hisa2.jpg Regards, Louis Quote
John A Stuart Posted April 18, 2008 Author Report Posted April 18, 2008 Here is one I just bought. The saya is being made prior to shipping. I know who the smith is, as an excecise can you figure it out? John Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 Bichu Matsuyama in Takahashi is well worth a visit. Takahashi lives in the past and many of the streets, houses and names are straight out of the Edo Period. The castle itself is a steep climb, and looking up it's something like a wizard's fortress built upon steep and jagged rocks. We had an exhibition in the Tenshu-kaku the other day with Katana and guns produced in that area. Before I left helping to carry stuff down the mountain I took a quick shot in the rain. Quote
Nobody Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 Here is one I just bought. The saya is being made prior to shipping. I know who the smith is, as an excecise can you figure it out? John Maybe this yari has the same mei. BTW, it is said that this was owned by Horibe Yasubei. (no reliable source) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horibe_Yasubei Quote
Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 Maybe Monju Kanehisa Saku æ–‡ ç 包 ä¹… 作 Quote
John A Stuart Posted April 19, 2008 Author Report Posted April 19, 2008 Yes, to both of you. I just could not refuse, the price being so reasonable. John Quote
Brian Posted April 19, 2008 Report Posted April 19, 2008 John, Very nice, we are all jealous. There is something about jumonji yari that makes them have lots of fans. I am sure you felt it Have you got an agent arranging the export, or is the dealer doing that? Brian Quote
John A Stuart Posted April 19, 2008 Author Report Posted April 19, 2008 Hi Brian, Tsuruta san of Aoi-art is taking care of it and getting the saya made for me. John Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted April 19, 2008 Report Posted April 19, 2008 I am not jealous. Much. Now is probably as good a time as any to buy one, though, as antiques have been hard hit in recent years. I would personally love to own one. Thinks... Quote
Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini Posted April 19, 2008 Report Posted April 19, 2008 Well done John. Wish it was mine. Quote
Bungo Posted April 19, 2008 Report Posted April 19, 2008 http://www.esnips.com/web/nihonto?docsPage=8#files page 8 through 11. milt Quote
Brian Posted April 20, 2008 Report Posted April 20, 2008 Ok..now is that in your "for show" section or your "for sale" section? I don't quite get esnips sometimes, and on dial up it is pretty frustrating. Not for sale is it? Very nice. Brian Quote
John A Stuart Posted April 23, 2008 Author Report Posted April 23, 2008 Hi Darcy, Those knurls(term?) give it a real gothic look. I have seen it posted in a few places subject to discussion but can not recall the attribution. What was it again? John Quote
Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini Posted April 23, 2008 Report Posted April 23, 2008 She has an "evil touch"... A real beauty. Quote
Brian Posted April 23, 2008 Report Posted April 23, 2008 Yep, she was beautiful and unusual. Sakakura Gonnoshin Terukane. http://www.nihonto.ca/terukane/ There is a very lucky owner out there somewhere. Brian Quote
Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini Posted April 23, 2008 Report Posted April 23, 2008 Darcy, do you know/remember who have polsihed her ? Quote
Bungo Posted April 23, 2008 Report Posted April 23, 2008 Darcy, Your sword photo session......... do the swords have to have papers ? milt Quote
Darcy Posted April 23, 2008 Report Posted April 23, 2008 I bought the piece in Japan and had a sayagaki put on it. It was already polished at the time so I don't know who did it. I had a Japanese dealer translate it, and he called it a Chidori-Jumonji Yari (Cow's Horns). There are a lot of people who link to the page and I viewed some of the discussions, under one of them they said that Chidori means Plover, so my translation was wrong... but as mentioned this came from a Japanese dealer who would know... anyway so what it's worth. The reverse prongs give you some extra options in terms of grabbing a sword or polearm, the basic use on a jumonji yari allows you to trap another polearm and then slide up along it to the hands of the opponent. Milt, for the photos, no papers are necessary if there is no doubt about the attribution. I'd expect that a fair number of gendai blades won't be papered. I shot a Bungo Yukihira that was mentioned in an old Honami book, it has no papers, and is signed but the NBTHK won't paper the signature, though they said it is indeed a Yukihira and will pass Juyo. That's the most important sword in the no papers category. Quote
John A Stuart Posted April 23, 2008 Author Report Posted April 23, 2008 Darcy, I can see why the yari would be termed chidori jumonji yari, I think. The plover has a bent wing aspect in flight very reminiscent of the appearance of your yari, beak towards the nakago, although it doesn't describe the knurls but I guess that is not the important part of the description. Lots of plovers here in the summer. John Quote
Bungo Posted April 23, 2008 Report Posted April 23, 2008 " Milt, for the photos, no papers are necessary if there is no doubt about the attribution. I'd expect that a fair number of gendai blades won't be papered. " Darcy, you think my jumonji is good enough to qualify for the photo session ? It has NTHK paper to Masazane. Old Yoshikawa sensei called it shinto, but a lot of old timers thought he erred on that and should be koto. I got that from Arnold F. long time ago. milt Quote
Darcy Posted April 23, 2008 Report Posted April 23, 2008 Yes, I'll surely shoot that... I will be shooting a Muramasa yari and the two will go one after the other for Mino den. Quote
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