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During my learning and study I have come to love a few different schools and styles of swords. I used to be hell bent on buying an Ishido sword, and maybe I still am. That said, they don't come up much, hard to find.

 

I thought why not dip into the collectors here and see some Ishido works!

 

If anyone has a Tameyasu (1st or 2nd gen), Yasutsuna, Korekazu (1st or 2nd gen), Koretsugu, Ippo, finally Tsunemitsu I would LOVE to see it.  

 

Thanks for any visual fun.

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LOVE IT!!!!

 

Much more active than other Yasuhiro blades I have seen, stunning example. Thank you!

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Kii no kuni Tachibana Yasutsuna, first generation.

This one is a masterpiece of Yasutsuna.

 

Signature:   Kii no kuni Yasusuna

Nagasa:   70.20 cm

Sori:   1.20 cm

Motohaba:   3.15 cm

Motokasane:   0.8 cm

Hamon:   Choji – midare

Hada:   Mokume

Papier:   NBTHK Tokubetsu Hozon

Koshira:   Shirasaya + Katana Koshira

 

 

Tom

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Here an other one. Its a Masterpiece.

 

Signature:   Ki no kuni Yasutoshi

Nagasa:   71.20 cm

Sory:    1.25 cm

Motohaba:   3.20 cm

Motokasane:    7.1 mm

Hamon:   O-gunome with Choji.

Jihada:   Itame with Chikei.

Paper:   NBTHK Tokubetsu Hozon

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My first Nihonto may be Unju Korekazu, or some other very good shinshinto maker. Mei has been erased at some point and a second mekugi ana has been punched to pass it off as O-suriage koto. That person also aged the nakago in some acidic solution to add to the little masquerade. 

 

http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/20477-disputed-attribution-unjuy-korekazutakei-naotane/

 

I love that sword despite all its trickery :)

 

As you can imagine it was and is a great learning experience and this board was truly instrumental in solving the mystery. Lots of lessons learned. On a side note I'm baffled how much I learned since I first posted here, truly a wonderful community. I suppose I was fortunate in the misfortune of this sword, I would not have been able to afford such a quality blade otherwise. 

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I know you’ve seen some of these pics Jeremiah, but I know how much you like this katana. It’s made by Muneharu who was a student of Korekazu.

 

The hamon is Niedeki cyoji midare and active Cyoji midare with ashi and yo work from the monouchi area. koitame hada well grained with jinie attach

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My first Nihonto may be Unju Korekazu, or some other very good shinshinto maker. Mei has been erased at some point and a second mekugi ana has been punched to pass it off as koto. That person also aged the nakago in some acidic solution to add to the little masquerade. 

 

http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/20477-disputed-attribution-unjuy-korekazutakei-naotane/

 

I love that sword despite all its trickery :)

Thanks for posting.

 

I have read that thread over a few times before tonight. It's very interesting and I think Darcy summed it up well towards the end.

 

Your swords is spectacular, it's really wonderful. I love it.

 

Have you submitted to a shinsa? Would love to know the result. I am total novice, but I do love Ishido school very much. I would lean towards Naotane on yours, just gut feeling. 

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I know you’ve seen some of these pics Jeremiah, but I know how much you like this katana. It’s made by Muneharu who was a student of Korekazu.

 

The hamon is Niedeki cyoji midare and active Cyoji midare with ashi and yo work from the monouchi area. koitame hada well grained with jinie attach

I do really like it Erick!!! Classic what I call "Bleeding Rain" choji work of the school. Plus it came with that great shirasaya.

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I didn't submit it. I don't think it will be a chance to learn anything new, as Darcy said it. The only reason would be for a potential re-sell, I suppose. But as my first love in the sword world It's not leaving my hands anytime soon :)

 

Problem is that shinshinto work isn't very distinct compared to the older days. Steel production was centralized, methods of production became more homogeneous...

 

Learning more about it would require a discussion with some foremost expert on Ishido/Naotane work. I'm sure someone like Tanobe sensei would have some interesting things to say about - but it's not the sort of sword he would agree to make a sayagaki for by my estimation. It's just too ambiguous and coated in some shady history. It would be untoward to ask. 

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I've got a nice shinto Ishido wakizashi (22.5inch Nagasa) that is almost identical in workmanship to the muneharu posted. All the characteristics of osaka Ishido work.. beautiful Choji- midare in nioi-deki with sunagashi and lots of naga-ashi & Ko-itame hada.. surprised it's not signed, but hey! If anyone is looking to add an Ishido work to their collection -pm me. I'm not overly attached and I could let it go.

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I've got a nice shinto Ishido wakizashi (22.5inch Nagasa) that is almost identical in workmanship to the muneharu posted. All the characteristics of osaka Ishido work.. beautiful Choji- midare in nioi-deki with sunagashi and lots of naga-ashi & Ko-itame hada.. surprised it's not signed, but hey! If anyone is looking to add an Ishido work to their collection -pm me. I'm not overly attached and I could let it go.

 

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Chris

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Hi Jeremiah.  Here are a few photos from the Aoi site of the 7th generation Korekazu I bought some time ago - there was a NMB discussion about it at the time that you initiated.  I still don't have it since it awaits shinsa in the fall.  Interestingly, last month a mumei blade of mine (that friends more expert than me thought was either Ichimonji or Hatakeda) papered to first generation Korekazu at the recent Chicago NTHK-NPO shinsa.  I don't have photos of it and it is having some work done.  Also, another sword that I found years ago, thought was Ichimonji and had polished, papered to Tameyasa.  I sold that sword, but it was quite beautiful.  So it appears that I may have struck out twice on osuriage Ishido in search of Ichimonji.  Cheers, Bob

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The best Ishido I have owned (and one of the top 2-3 Ishido I have seen. Shodai (Musashi Daijo) Korekazu, with a rare nijimei. Published four times...

I have pictures of that one saved to my computer. Classic Ishido "dripping glowing embers" choji (I invented calling it that BTW :) ). Tameyasu, Yasustsuna, and early Yasuhiro show this great aspect as well.

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