John C

Another tell-tale sign is the offset hamachi. Even a broken blade shortened into a tanto would have a straight hamachi line. John C.

Wow. WW2 bring-back! Makes you wonder what else is out there. John C.

No, I don't. Just the notation that the weight tolerances seemed to be more important in the production than the size specs. John C.

Steve, you're the best! Thank you! John C.

@vajo I posted this excerpt from Ohmura-san on another thread, however I have highlighted a different section here. Just additional information... "Major Oto, who supervised the production of military swords as the manager of the Nagoya Army Arsenal Sekibu Factory, described the blades made by swordsmiths in accordance with the official standards as "Army-style modern forging swords" in his memoirs. It is possible that this "formal modern forged sword" was the official name of the military.　The sword blade stems delivered to this armory are: (1) Those with only a "star" mark that has passed the Army Material Inspection (2) A "star" and a number stamp on the stem butt (3) A "star" and an inspection mark on the stem building (4) There are various types such as those with a "star" and a small "sekiin". Items made before the designation of a swordsmith or items sold directly without delivery to the armory due to special circumstances even during the period of swordsmithing will not be marked with these inspection seals, number stamps, etc. A sword that does not have the date of manufacture cut on the back of the stem is not a sword that has been once delivered to the armory, even if it is a standard sword of the swordsmith. In addition, "non-standard swords" that greatly deviated from the tolerance range of the dimensional standards indicated by the specifications and drawings, such as being important, deeply warped, or too heavy, were not delivered to the armory, but were sold directly to sword dealers and officers. Of course, these are not stamped with stars or numbers." John C.

Not sure if mine is included in the chart, however I too have a Kanehide (Aug 44) with small seki near date AND on the mune. John C.

What is interesting is the consistency. Your blade is skinnier in all respects but thicker in all respects. Again, makes me wonder if the weight would be nearly the same. John C.

Hello: I was considering buying this kogatana blade from Matt Bryce (StCroix blades). Would it be possible to get a translation? The style of writing is way beyond my ability to look it up. Also, opinions on shoshin mei or gimei would be helpful. It looks a little "choppy" to me. Thank you, John C.

Steve: I'm using google translate so the info is sketchy. But the first one looks interesting. Seems to be personal information. Ishida Masaru from Kyoto prefecture. Has height information; Born in Meiji era; jurisdiction imperial guard, stuff like that. But again, the app is not always very accurate. I think the other one is basic military information. John C.

Showa 17 (1942) Looks a little like Kanesuke but I am NOT a translator so I'm probably wrong on that. Appears to have a civilian gunzoku tsuba. Again, without a star stamp, it's a standard showa-to. John C.

I assume you mean something like this. That would be either a showa or Gifu stamp (depending on what is inside the sakura flower). That would most likely confirm it is a standard showa-to sword. Unless it really speaks to you, I would look around some more. John C.

I too find this interesting. It could mean there are gendaito blades out there without the tell-tale marks. Could explain why some blades have the "gendaito" look but may be labeled as gimei. John C.

Reminds me of a police duty belt; especially the 3 hole design. The flap prevents the two prongs from scraping on the inside belt. John C.

Grape-themed menuki as well... John C.

Ouch. For that, it should be immaculate. Now, this is all assuming it is a standard, oil quenched, Seki or Showa stamped showa-to blade. If it has a star stamp, is water quenched, has a nice lanyard and tassel, has some unique inscription, or is one of the Kanetsuna from an older period, it could be worth the asking price. But remember, showa-to were made in the thousands so they aren't rare. John C.

900-1200 dollar range if the fittings look good and the blade isn't chipped. John C.

Bruce: Just saw this on another thread. Stamped numbers 898 or 868. John C.

If there is any writing on the inside, it would be really cool to get it translated (probably would have to pay someone or take it to a local college where they teach Japanese languages). It could have some historically significant passages, or at the very least, give you an idea if his family can be located. Great find, Steve!! John C.

Bruce: You mentioned that most of the numbered blades were from RJT smiths. There is an interesting excerpt from one of Omhura-san's notes about the stamped numbers. "Major Oto, who supervised the production of military swords as the manager of the Nagoya Army Arsenal Sekibu Factory, described the blades made by swordsmiths in accordance with the official standards as "Army-style modern forging swords" in his memoirs. It is possible that this "formal modern forged sword" was the official name of the military.　The sword blade stems delivered to this armory are: (1) Those with only a "star" mark that has passed the Army Material Inspection (2) A "star" and a number stamp on the stem butt (3) A "star" and an inspection mark on the stem building (4) There are various types such as those with a "star" and a small "sekiin". Items made before the designation of a swordsmith or items sold directly without delivery to the armory due to special circumstances even during the period of swordsmithing will not be marked with these inspection seals, number stamps, etc. A sword that does not have the date of manufacture cut on the back of the stem is not a sword that has been once delivered to the armory, even if it is a standard sword of the swordsmith. In addition, "non-standard swords" that greatly deviated from the tolerance range of the dimensional standards indicated by the specifications and drawings, such as being important, deeply warped, or too heavy, were not delivered to the armory, but were sold directly to sword dealers and officers. Of course, these are not stamped with stars or numbers." John C.

Ah. I stand corrected. Thank you for the clarification. John C.

I think SteveM answered that question above (Ishida Katsutoshi), however I have another question. Is there any inscription on the back of the picture or any thing else that may help to identify the owner further? John C.

I did a quick search of my soldier pics and it looks like the utility belt had just one hook and hole rather than two. John C.

As a leather holster and sheath maker, it looks new to me. The leather color and brushed brass colored buckle are new. The clasps look inexpensive. In addition, the edges of the leather are not finished, which generally means made somewhere other than Japan. Just my opinion, of course. John C.

I don't have this information. But I can tell you my standard souvenir blade weighs 769 grams; about 43 grams less than yours. It would be interesting for others with souvenir swords to weigh their blades so we could determine if there are any patterns between those (unsigned, clipped, souvenirs) and those that are signed. This may help in determining if certain blades were left over stock or produced post-war. John C.

There are probably some allowances for dimensional variation, but does the drawing mention weight standards? This is in reference to "Processing Swords for Officers", (however the direction may have been the same for kai gunto blades): 4. The dimensional shape was allowed to differ slightly from the standard dimensions, but the weight was strict. (Article 1, Paragraph 10) Did you happen to weigh the Takayama-to? Just curious. John C.