Bruce Pennington

Trystan, Do you have pictures of other arsenals or shops on bayonets like that? Curious to see if they are shop stamps or arsenal stamps. John, sorry for taking an off-ramp from your post! Brian, If you feel it appropriate, we could split this off from my post #27. Could call it "Toyokawa Anchor in Sakura".

George, That's very useful info, thanks! I am still in the gathering stage. I included your earlier post on the Akihisa and Munetoshi Yamagami blades. In it, you point out that prior to the Army's assumption of control over national sword making in 1942, their blades were just numbered, but beginning in '42 they added the Matsu stamp, and finally in '44 the Matsu was replaced with kanji that could be associated with their prefectures - which matches the way stamping changed for all arsenals and blades. While it is WAY too early to draw conclusions, this all has the hint, the faintest whisper, to me of numbering done by smiths and/or arsenals rather than fitting shops. Fittings shops, as far as I know (which is very little!) weren't responsible to these stamping laws, it was the smith/forge and arsenal who were held to this. But, like I say, too early to even say that!

Ha! I'm afraid I don't know. The picture is from a post made by Vajo on an older thread. I just collect pictures of kikusui for my files. I did recently see Sadakazu and Sadakatsu (sp?) mentioned in another thread as a smith that was known to use the emblem.

My 2 cents on the kikusui -From Herman Wallinga's book. The Sadakazu one shows a hand-crafted one that is, in my view, even less skilled ( I'm trying not to say poorly crafted!). We found on an other Minatagawa thread (HERE) that there is quite a lot of variation of these emblems. They were not a fixed stamp, but hand-cut, so artist conception and skill vary for all of them. Second one, bottom row:

This is what George Trotter said about him: "The Yanagawa brothers of Saitama had been making swords in their shop in Suginami, Tokyo (next to Shinjuku) since Meiji Taisho times, (mainly sabres etc which they "signed" with a stamp "Naotsugu"). Their "brand" name was "Shoshin". In WWII they must have also been making gendai which the signed with the usual "cut" mei...usually SHOSHIN or USHOSHIN. "

Picture Please! I wish we could pin down the shop that was stamping numbers rather than using paint. But they seem to be affiliated with higher-end blades. Maybe it was considered "classier" by the shop owner.

Third choice: Doesn't matter to me either way. "check"

It might take a while, but that can be part of the fun of the hobby. It took me 2 years to find all the parts that were missing on my dad's Mantetsu. But it's worth the time and effort. In the end, you wind up with a really good looking gunto and the pleasure of making it all happen.

Bobby, You have a Japanese officer sword (Type 94 or 98, can't tell without pictures of the full saya (scabbard). Someone will help with the smith's name. More pictures of the full blade, and close-ups of the blade tip and a section of the blade showing the temper line, will help tell more about the blade.

Thanks Neil, any other inspector stamps on it?

Thomas, I hadn't made that connection! Are you seeing the "TO" on the kabutogane of the "M" stamped blades?

Thanks David! I'm glad we looked further on that, as it is クKU. And it fits better as all the other Ku are Autumn blades too.

Here's one from BaZZa on the Kaigunto with mon thread:

Barry, Richard Fuller says that is the Toyokawa Navy Arsenal stamp on fittings. It might be, but I'm starting to investigate the idea that it's an actual stamp from a koshirae shop, associated with the arsenal, sure, but a separate shop like Tenzoshan was. The Toyokawa stamp on blades is an anchor in a circle, not a sakura. Thanks for the nice example!

OK, after seeing the rest of the pictures, it is clear that Tsuka was never fitted for that blade. Matching numbers on the saya, so that’s good!

That's what I thought. With mixed items like this there are usually 3 choices: 1. All original, 2. G.I. has a gunto with missing parts, scrounges the sword piles to find stuff to fit, and 3. Post-war piece-together. Since you know the full story of this one, Choice 3 is out, leaving the first two. The most obvious choice is #2 - he picked up the gunto, missing parts, and scrounged around to find some that fit. The small black seppa is correct for a late-war Type 95, so we only have the tsuba and tsuka to wonder about. I haven't seen a habaki. Is there one, or is it missing? If it's missing, it could explain why the mekugi ana don't line up. I'm plagued by the shortened nakago, though. There was a program early in the war for officers to buy Type 95 (or rent) gunto because of shortages. What little we know of the program, though, makes is seem to be during the early years. I haven't heard of it lasting into the end of the war, but that doesn't mean it wasn't still being done. This, to me, has the appearance of a blade that was intentionally shortened to take the officer tsuka (and Oh, BTW, it's got an officer tsuka on it!). Another purely speculative idea is that an NCO, just graduating from officer candidate school, had his 95 modified for the officer handle. But I'm WAY into pure speculation. All we know, in fact, is you have a late-war Type 95 with a modified nakago and an officer tsuba and tsuka! And you know some Bubba didn't do this to the sword post-war.

David, Thanks for adding your blade to the study! Of the 9 " ウ" numbers, yours is the first "Autumn", the rest are all "Spring". Forgive me for being anal, but could I get a picture of the full serial number that would show the ウ, please!? Yours is interesting too, because it looks like the number was mistakenly marked "4 4 6" and realizing his error, struck over the second 4 with a 6!

Mike, Thanks for the photos! Could I get one more of the tsuba (hand-guard) laying by itself? So, the blade IS a late-war Type 95 NCO blade, made by Seki shops for the Nagoya Army Arsenal. The saya is correct and likely original to the blade. The end of the nakago (tang) has been cut off, and the original handle (tsuka) should be wooden. I have one just 2,000 numbers earlier than yours (211894 Seki) and I'm posting pics of the tsuka and nakago for comparison. It's possible yours took some battle damage and the repair team cut the end off. Many of these war trophies came home missing parts. If the tsuba (hand-guard) is correct, then all you're missing is the tsuka.

Chevy, Please go to your settings, and put in a first name that will show up on all of your posts. It’s forum rules, and we are just used to having a real person to talk to rather than a screen name. Thanks. SteveM gave us the name in a post above. It’s “Seishin (or Shōshin)”. He is an obscure Sword Smith, and no one really knows which pronunciation is correct.

Fabulous Steve, thank you! Edit: Just saw that you posted this answer on the other thread! Sorry for the double hit on this!

So, Steve, what do you think about this one? It doesn't have the 右, just the 正心. It's on a shingunto on This Thread

Is the saya (scabbard) aluminum? If you have a magnet, see if it sticks.

I had just recently read about this scheme on another forum (maybe Gunboards). If the bad guys used the same ingenuity, time, and effort in legitimate work, they'd be rich by now! Such a shame.

Sometimes the guys that can translate cruise through. If they don't in a day or so, bring the mei over to the Translation Assistance Forum. Your metal parts have some residual "silver" in the crevasses, and have that same dark look you see on the plated ones. Neil (IJASWORDS) posted some that have that same look, on another thread.

What about 正広 (Masahiro)