Reinier Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 is the carp theme common for fittings? i'm inspired by mantis dude to collect a single theme that holds a special meaning to me. i've been fishing for carp for over 10 years now i think collecting carp themed fittings would be a great combination of two passionsof mine. i also read that the carp stands for courage, persistance, determination and perseverance so that makes it even more interesting. i've searched a lot of sites and only found 2 tsubas with a carp theme and one with a angling theme. have you guys come across many carps in the past? sorry i take every chance to show off Quote
Brian Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 The carp theme is a very polular theme among Nihonto fittings. I am quite partial too, and have often thought it will make a great theme. I won't post all the links here, but if you google "carp koshirae" you will pull up many links. Lots of the carp themes depict the koi, but I think I am correct that there is a strong link between the 2, and they are family. Good luck with your field, you should easily be able to build up a nice collection if the funds allow it :D Regards, Brian Quote
Martin Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 As far as I know the Japanese carps do look a bit slimmer than the one you caught :lol: cheers, Martin Quote
Mantis dude Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 There are definately carp themed fittings out there. I think I just saw one on Aoi in one of the fittings. The Goto school did some as well. It isn't extremely common, but I consider that good, part of the fun is the hunt, if it is too easy then there is no hunt. I have seen different ones from carp, but that may be a judgement call sometimes and then the koi dude may get upset-haha. I always thought about doing a fishing theme for mounting a sword (I like the mantis items displayed). Fishing is my favorite hobby or at least it was before I messed up my neck and back. Really miss fly fishing! If I find some, I will let you know. I remember fishing in one stream in Rochester. They hunted carp by bowhunting and then leaving the carcuses around. shame, was great stream/river fed into a great lake. Had trout, carp, large and small mouth bass, sunfish and salmon. I caught over 40 fish one day was fun! But those smelly carp carcuses. Anyway, go for it. See if you can find some legends with carp in them. All the best. :D Quote
nagamaki - Franco Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 http://www.mfa.org/collections/search_art.asp?recview=true&id=11664&coll_keywords=&coll_accession=&coll_name=&coll_artist=&coll_place=&coll_medium=&coll_culture=&coll_classification=&coll_credit=&coll_provenance=&coll_location=&coll_has_images=&coll_on_view=&coll_sort=0&coll_sort_order=0&coll_view=0&coll_package=27268&coll_start=41 As seen in the link above there are some extraordinary pieces with this motif, enough to ring any collector's desire Quote
Martin Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 or look at this one: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... :IT&ih=012 cheers, Martin Quote
Justin Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 Check out the fittings on this tanto. http://www.cmmilitaryantiques.com/gallery.php?arid=1574 Regards Justin Quote
Nobody Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 As far as I know the Japanese carps do look a bit slimmer than the one you caught :lol: Yes, they surely look slimmer. FYI: Koinobori http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koinobori Quote
Thierry BERNARD Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 one tsuba http://www.aoi-art.com/fittings/6500-6549/06503.html Quote
Justin Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 Tsuba number 508 (second from the top). http://www.finesword.co.jp/sale/kodougu/kodougu(501-600).htm Cheap, cheerful and papered. Regards Justin Quote
Rich T Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 http://www.finesword.co.jp/sale/kodougu/htm/0609/508/508.htm Rich Quote
LAURENCE Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 If you get through to the tsuba collection on the website of the Boston Museum of Fine Arts and put 'tsuba carp' in the search box you will see 23 wonderful examples with a carp theme. Good hunitng, Laurence Quote
Guest Simon Rowson Posted April 15, 2007 Report Posted April 15, 2007 Hi Reinier' I recently bought these katana size "carp in waves" shakudo menuki at an antique fair in Tokyo. Not great quality but certainly related to your theme. Simon Quote
Stephen Posted April 15, 2007 Report Posted April 15, 2007 http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-sword-The-C ... dZViewItem Quote
Reinier Posted April 15, 2007 Author Report Posted April 15, 2007 is it possible to buy from finesword.co.jp as a non-Japanese speaker? Quote
Justin Posted April 15, 2007 Report Posted April 15, 2007 Hi Reinier, Yes, the guys at Finesword can speak English (Finesword is a sister company of Choshuya Ginza). You can speak to Kimura-san. His email address is kimura@choshuya.co.jp. Regards Justin Quote
Rich T Posted April 16, 2007 Report Posted April 16, 2007 I think he is a she. the full name is Kimura Makato. I might be wrong but I think she is one of the girls in the office. Rich Quote
Jean Posted April 16, 2007 Report Posted April 16, 2007 Hi Reinier, I have already ordered from Fine sword Co. I am directly dealing through Ginza Choshuya : Mrs Akemi Tateno Fantastic swift service - you can pay with Visa Quote
roninjje Posted April 17, 2007 Report Posted April 17, 2007 As trhe original koi dude, I thought I would chime in and show a pic of my favorite tsuba. I also have another with a little monk riding a giant carp through the water, but that is mounted on a shin-shinto piece. Quote
Gaijin Posted April 17, 2007 Report Posted April 17, 2007 Sold this carp design tsuba last month http://www.bushiart.com/shop/default.as ... enuName=70 Just added carp design fuchi kashira set http://www.bushiart.com/shop/default.as ... &menuName= Quote
Reinier Posted April 17, 2007 Author Report Posted April 17, 2007 wow that is indeed a very nice carp tsuba roninjje. that is my favorite type of tsuba (at the moment) and i hope to find something similar somewhere in the future i love that f&k set as well. it's the first i've come across with a carp theme. Reinier Quote
Martin Posted April 20, 2007 Report Posted April 20, 2007 Hi Reinier, here is a sword with carp theme fittings. http://www.japanszwaard.nl/zc7.html And the dealer is not really far away from you I suppose cheers, Martin Quote
Bungo Posted April 20, 2007 Report Posted April 20, 2007 " wow that is indeed a very nice carp tsuba roninjje. " I believe he was visiting my fish pond ................ By the way I got it originally from Cary Condell. p.s. for more exceptional finds.............. visit http://www.esnips.com/web/sujikabuto-forsale milt the ronin Quote
Martin Posted April 20, 2007 Report Posted April 20, 2007 wow milt, 24 pages on you "for sale"-site by now ... Are there perhaps already plans for some next "excursions" to Rome or Vienna :lol: cheers, Martin Quote
Reinier Posted April 20, 2007 Author Report Posted April 20, 2007 Hi Reinier, here is a sword with carp theme fittings. http://www.japanszwaard.nl/zc7.html And the dealer is not really far away from you I suppose cheers, Martin i held that sword in my hands yesterday (: was visiting that collector/dealer to get acquinted and to see some very nice swords. Quote
roninjje Posted April 20, 2007 Report Posted April 20, 2007 Milt, you do have the best stuff And I do love that tsuba - By the way, a great blue heron got all my koi - again Quote
Bungo Posted April 20, 2007 Report Posted April 20, 2007 Milt, you do have the best stuff And I do love that tsuba - By the way, a great blue heron got all my koi - again don't forget your autographed book when you drop by my table( hopefully drop some cash ) at the Chicago show............... milt the ronin Quote
roninjje Posted April 21, 2007 Report Posted April 21, 2007 unfortunately I will be in Atlanta on business that weekend. Silly me not booking a trip to our Chicago office. :? Send me your address Milt, privately - and if you like it you can write a nice review for me. Quote
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