MattBrandon Posted 19 hours ago Report Posted 19 hours ago Hello everyone, this is my first post here, and I appreciate being able to join the discussion. I’m looking for help identifying a WWII Japanese officer’s sword that my father brought back from the Pacific after the war. He served from 1943 to 1945 in the 1539th Ordnance and Supply unit and was in the Pacific from New Guinea to Okinawa. He said Japanese officers had to surrender their swords after the surrender, and I believe he may have been involved in collecting them. The sword appears to be an Army officer shin guntō with matching assembly numbers on several parts, including 135. The tang has no visible arsenal stamps on either side that I can see. The blade has a visible hamon, and the tang is signed. My current best reading of the mei is: 仙台住兼宗作 Sendai jū Kanemune saku “Made by Kanemune, resident of Sendai.” I would appreciate any help with: confirming or correcting the mei identifying the smith opinions on whether the blade is traditionally made or wartime production any comments on the mounts and matching numbers I’m posting a few photos first because of upload limits, and I can add more details if needed. 1 Quote
Scogg Posted 19 hours ago Report Posted 19 hours ago Hello @MattBrandon, welcome to the forum. I'm going to relocate your post to the "translation assistance" section. I think you'll get a faster reply there. The fittings are pretty standard "Type 98 Shin Guntō" fittings with nice looking leather combat cover on the scabbard. The matching "135" numbers is great to have, and strongly suggests that your fittings are originally made for the blade. This is a good thing, because often times we see swords that are "pieced together" from mismatched parts. Looks in nice condition. Best of luck, -Sam 1 1 Quote
MattBrandon Posted 18 hours ago Author Report Posted 18 hours ago 41 minutes ago, Scogg said: Hello @MattBrandon, welcome to the forum. I'm going to relocate your post to the "translation assistance" section. I think you'll get a faster reply there. The fittings are pretty standard "Type 98 Shin Guntō" fittings with nice looking leather combat cover on the scabbard. The matching "135" numbers is great to have, and strongly suggests that your fittings are originally made for the blade. This is a good thing, because often times we see swords that are "pieced together" from mismatched parts. Looks in nice condition. Best of luck, -Sam Thanks for the help Sam. Quote
ROKUJURO Posted 15 hours ago Report Posted 15 hours ago Not KANEMUNE, MEI looks more like MITSUHIRO. Province might be OWARI/OSHU. 1 Quote
Nobody Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago 6 hours ago, MattBrandon said: ................................. My current best reading of the mei is: 仙台住兼宗作 Sendai jū Kanemune saku “Made by Kanemune, resident of Sendai.” .............................................................................................. Whoever said that was completely different. 尾州住人真野光弘作之 (Bishu junin Mano Mitsuhiro saku kore) – A resident of Bishu (= Owari province), Mano Mitsuhiro made this. 4 1 Quote
rebcannonshooter Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago Moriyama-san, why does the "Nin" kanji have the extra strokes on it? (Mitsuhiro used 4 strokes on this kanji instead of 2), which had me scratching my head in confusion. "Nin" was the only thing that made sense there, but I never saw it written this way. Thankyou, Tom Quote
Nobody Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, rebcannonshooter said: Moriyama-san, why does the "Nin" kanji have the extra strokes on it? (Mitsuhiro used 4 strokes on this kanji instead of 2), which had me scratching my head in confusion. "Nin" was the only thing that made sense there, but I never saw it written this way. Thankyou, Tom I only know that it is one of variant forms of 人. I think that there is no deep meaning. Ref. File:U3139a.svg - Wikimedia Commons BTW, I usually write 7 in the left form in the attached image, whereas most people here write 7 in the right form. Because, when I was young, I often read German blueprints with handwriting characters, and I liked them. 3 Quote
John C Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago 8 hours ago, MattBrandon said: few photos By the way, VERY nice M1941 Johnson. John C. 1 Quote
rebcannonshooter Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago Thankyou Moriyama-san, I I did a long back and forth with AI on this kanji, and the AI wasn't able to explain anything about it being a variant. You are most generous with your time and knowledge, Thanks again, Tom 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago Matt, and minor FYI - the blue/brown tassel is the Company grade tassel for Lt's & Capt's (Warrant officers too, I think). As for the blade, I'm really bad at this, but I think it could be traditionally made. (this will get the real experts to chime it for you!). Another note: Based on my chart and files, blades with dates on the end of the nakago (tang) like yours - vertical, blade tip up - were made from 1943 - 1945. Just to give you an idea about the manufacture range. 1 Quote
Brian Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago 3 hours ago, John C said: By the way, VERY nice M1941 Johnson. John C. Was just going to say that :-) Wow. 1 Quote
MattBrandon Posted 40 minutes ago Author Report Posted 40 minutes ago 12 hours ago, Nobody said: Whoever said that was completely different. 尾州住人真野光弘作之 (Bishu junin Mano Mitsuhiro saku kore) – A resident of Bishu (= Owari province), Mano Mitsuhiro made this. Thank you for the information.Can you tell me more about him? What does this tell me about this sword? I am amazed at the information and depth of knowledge on this board! Thanks Matt Quote
MattBrandon Posted 39 minutes ago Author Report Posted 39 minutes ago 10 hours ago, John C said: By the way, VERY nice M1941 Johnson. John C. Thank you, that was also a "bring back" from my dad. Quote
Conway Posted 15 minutes ago Report Posted 15 minutes ago Maybe this smith is a possible relation of Mano Masayasu and Mano Kuniyasu, who were also smiths (and brothers) from Owari during WW2. Here are a few other examples found online, but no additional details on the smith. Maybe @mecox has some knowledge of this smith. https://auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b1119732614 https://auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o1145185613 Also, that’s a nice looking display! Quote
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