Gunto assistance - djthomas1

[djthomas1]

Hi plz help with this blade what does the kikusui and when saying respectfully forged how would i find the class of person he forged this for is it gendaito it doesnt have a seki stamp

 

[vajo]

It is not a Gendaito. 

[ROKUJURO]

1 hour ago, djthomas1 said:

.....plz help with this blade. What does the kikusui ( mean ) and when saying respectfully forged, how would I find the class of person he forged this for ? Is it gendaito ? It doesn't have a seki stamp

Dustin,

you posted in the AMAHIDE thread. Please open up a new topic in the MILITARY SECTION for your sword.

The photo is upside-down, and there is no KIKUSUI (= Chrysanthemum on water) but a SAKURA no HANA (= cherry blossom).

All NAKAGO photos without HABAKI please !

[Bruce Pennington]

Sam, maybe split this off to either Translation or Military forum?

 

Hi Dustin, the real translators will fill us in better, but I believe your blade was made by Hidetoshi.  The stamp is the Showa stamp of the civil Seki Cutlery Manufacturers Association.  An industry group tasked to make quality control inspections on all blades made in the area.  

 

Got to go for now, but we'll get you more info on him later today.

[Scogg]

Thanks Bruce,

@djthomas1, I have relocated your inquiry to the Military Swords of Japan section. I think it fits more appropriately in this section, and I believe you'll get better and more focused input here. 

Below is your image oriented so people can read it more easily.
Best of luck,
-Sam

(Image mirrored for some reason)

Edited April 28 by Scogg

[John C]

18 hours ago, djthomas1 said:

when saying respectfully forged how would i find the class of person he forged this for

Dustin:

In answer to this part of your question, showato were partially hand forged. The difference between these and gendaito are 1) the type of steel used (tamahagane vs. other types), 2) the forging method used (air hammers and presses vs. hand forging, and 3) the quenching medium (oil vs.water).

Additionally, showato, like gendaito, were also made for officers. Since they purchased their swords, the type of sword depended on how much they were willing to spend.

 

John C.

[Bruce Pennington]

I probably should wait for the full translation, but this should be your guy, if I've gotten the right name:

 

"HIDETOSHI (秀俊), Shōwa (昭和, 1926-1989), Gifu – “Hidetoshi” (秀俊), real name Ido Shunzō (井戸俊三), born June 14th 1915, he worked as a guntō smith and died Semtepber 18th 1985, ryōkō no jōi (Akihide)"

[Kiipu]

It is Hidetoshi as Bruce states.  However, the characters appear reversed?  Not sure how that happened.

Hidetoshi???

[BANGBANGSAN]

濃州住井戶秀俊作之    Nōshū jū Ido Hidetoshi saku kore