O-Mokume?

[Nicholas]

Can someone assist me with identifyingthe hada on this sword please. To me it looks more like O-Mokume.

[Rivkin]

Yes, matsukawa or  mokume.

I will go further and venture a guess this is either shinshinto (more likely), including later smiths like Gassan, or actually a quality early blade, probably Nanbokucho, in a polish which makes it look fresher.

Stylewise its between Norishige and Yamato.

 

[Matsunoki]

Reminds me of  Enryushi Kunihide.

[Nicholas]

6 hours ago, Rivkin said:

Yes, matsukawa or  mokume.

I will go further and venture a guess this is either shinshinto (more likely), including later smiths like Gassan, or actually a quality early blade, probably Nanbokucho, in a polish which makes it look fresher.

Stylewise its between Norishige and Yamato.

 

This sword is mumei, could possibly be Gendaito or maybe a little earlier with a Nambokucho period Enbun-Joji sugata with O-kissaki. Looks like the smith was trying to replicate Norishige. It came in type 98 military koshirae.

1 hour ago, Matsunoki said:

Reminds me of  Enryushi Kunihide.

Interesting. Yes very similar

[Grey Doffin]

I believe masame in the shinogi ji points to Shinto or later. Grey

[Jacques]

For what i can see, i would say O itame mixed with O mokume and fairly hadatachi. 

 

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I believe masame in the shinogi ji points to Shinto or later

It can be found on Muromachi Mino swords (Kanemoto, Kanesada)

[Ooitame]

Itame with some momkume.

[Rayhan]

I've seen an Okubo Kazuhira forged like this. Interesting itame mokume mix very distinguished Soshu style.

Okubo Kazuhira Sayagaki.pdf

[Nicholas]

A few more pictures of hada, hamon, 4 inch o-kissaki and type 98 mounts. 

[Rivkin]

Classic shinshinto. Pity its mumei.

[lonely panet]

Well if you dont want it. Ill take it hahahaha 

[Nicholas]

12 hours ago, lonely panet said:

Well if you dont want it. Ill take it hahahaha 

I love the sword. What makes it more interesting to me is some Japanese soldier carried this massive sword with Nambokucho sugata around during ww2.

[Lewis B]

Could it be Satsuma Soshu utsushi?

[Ooitame]

Interesting point Lewis, I have an incredible gendaito utushi in style of Osafune Kanemitsu.

[oli]

would be interesting to see the complete sugata

[David Flynn]

Looks like late Edo Mino, to me.

[Nicholas]

3 hours ago, oli said:

would be interesting to see the complete sugata

I’ll take some pictures of the whole blade later tonight.

[Scogg]

To address the original question; and apologies if I am preaching to the choir here...

I see areas of O-Mokume amongst a lot of Itame. It's my understanding that mokume is accompanied by itame. 

From Marcus Sesko's site:
https://markussesko.com/2015/05/13/kantei-2-jigane-jihada-2/
"Again, I for my part say for the time being that a hada is itame unless there are some obvious burls and then it might be itame mixed with mokume. So please don’t get too much confused about when it is itame and when it is mokume as it is in many cases a mix anyway."

And below, an excerpt from Facts and Fundamentals:

[lonely panet]

5 hours ago, Nicholas said:

I love the sword. What makes it more interesting to me is some Japanese soldier carried this massive sword with Nambokucho sugata around during ww2.

im going to guess,  by the great condition we finds it in,  he could have been in a office hahahah

[Nicholas]

7 hours ago, Lewis B said:

Could it be Satsuma Soshu utsushi?

Where could I find an example of a Satsuma Soshu utsushi?

2 hours ago, lonely panet said:

im going to guess,  by the great condition we finds it in,  he could have been in a office hahahah

Haha most likely. It is in great condition.

 

3 hours ago, Scogg said:

To address the original question; and apologies if I am preaching to the choir here...

I see areas of O-Mokume amongst a lot of Itame. It's my understanding that mokume is accompanied by itame. 

Absolutely itame mixed with Mokume. I can see areas of o-itame with large mokume mixed in throughout the blade.

[Nicholas]

Adding pictures of sugata and nakago

[oli]

Some examples about Satsuma Soshu baldes: http://nihonto-museum.com/collection/satsuma-province-swordsmiths/satsuma-province-swordsmiths-exhibition

 

Looks for me like mumei shinshinto. How long is the nagasa?

[oli]

Maybe check ikkansai yoshihiro 

[Nicholas]

4 hours ago, oli said:

Looks for me like mumei shinshinto. How long is the nagasa?

I don’t remember off the top of my head but around 27/28 inches

[Ooitame]

I would venture shinshinto as well.

[Nicholas]

8 hours ago, oli said:

Maybe check ikkansai yoshihiro 

That’s the direction I was looking into. Most likely a smith from that school/lineage. The sword looks close to Enryushi Kunihide‘s work who was a student of ikkansai Yoshihiro like Matsunoki said earlier.

[oli]

7 minutes ago, Nicholas said:

That’s the direction I was looking into. Most likely a smith from that school/lineage. The sword looks close to Enryushi Kunihide‘s work who was a student of ikkansai Yoshihiro like Matsunoki said earlier.

Hier is an example of Kunihide: https://eirakudo.shop/item/圓龍子国秀-坂本竜馬愛刀-奉納刀-身幅3-5cm-1-1kgを超える-2/

[Nicholas]

14 minutes ago, oli said:

Hier is an example of Kunihide: https://eirakudo.shop/item/圓龍子国秀-坂本竜馬愛刀-奉納刀-身幅3-5cm-1-1kgを超える-2/

This one’s closer in hamon and hada.

https://www.toukenkomachi.com/index_en_tachi&katana_A060822.html