Pretty hamon but what style?

[stevel48]

I'm leaning toward toranba  but it has so many elements of others.  I'll add better photos in a few days but here are some b&w photos and examples of hamon that it might fit.

 

Thoughts on style?

[Shugyosha]

Hi Steve, 

For me, not toranba, but if you Google “Tsuda Sukehiro toranba” and you’ll find some examples of his blades that illustrate that form of hamon.

 

With a lot of swords the hamon will consist of a variety of shapes and elements so it isn’t easy to say simply “Suguha” or “Notare”.

 

In this sword I’m seeing irregular large, squarish choji and large round Choji elements (with I think some nioi kuzure) and there may be other elements that sharper eyes will see, but that ought to suggest a possible school to you. 
 

Hope that helps a little. 

[Caracal]

Hi Steve

 

Looks like Hako Hamon (box shaped)

 

//Robert

[stevel48]

Isn"t it confusing? It has so many elements from the ones listed above.

 

More photos today

[stevel48]

 

It needs an updated finish polish to clean it up a bit.

[vajo]

Steve i like the hamon, but i think it is badly polished and treated with acid.

[Gakusee]

40 minutes ago, stevel48 said:

Isn"t it confusing? It has so many elements from the ones listed above.

 

More photos today

 

 

[Gakusee]

I would focus on uma-no-ha and hakoba gunome schools 

[stevel48]

1 hour ago, vajo said:

Steve i like the hamon, but i think it is badly polished and treated with acid.

Interesting theory. I dont see a lot of the damage or discoloration you might see with acid. David Hofhine is evaluating. Here is the steel for more information.

[vajo]

Steve the shinogi is polished round and the shinogi-ji looks like milk and not like a mirror. You see also a great dark long shadow along the shinogi which comes from an amateur polish. But this is not the theme of your thread. You ask for the hamon. I think it would look total different if the polish were good. So it is difficult to make a statement about the hamon because it is treated with acid. 

[stevel48]

3 hours ago, vajo said:

Steve the shinogi is polished round and the shinogi-ji looks like milk and not like a mirror. You see also a great dark long shadow along the shinogi which comes from an amateur polish. But this is not the theme of your thread. You ask for the hamon. I think it would look total different if the polish were good. So it is difficult to make a statement about the hamon because it is treated with acid. 

You might be on the right track now that i study it.  It'll be off to the polisher soon to see what can be done. This is my 5th nihonto and i might have made a mistake for the first time in 10 years. Luckily it was only in the hundreds of dollars . I still feel it will turn out well after polishing.

 

  I do have some gems though. Found in deplorable shape from WW2 and sent to Japan for restoration. Papered as Yamato no kami Sukemasa NTHK.

[DoTanuki yokai]

I would go for a yokoyama school smith but  your pictures show no hada or the boshi so its a wild guess because of the hamon and the tight nioi guchi.

[stevel48]

32 minutes ago, DoTanuki yokai said:

I would go for a yokoyama school smith but  your pictures show no hada or the boshi so its a wild guess because of the hamon and the tight nioi guchi.

Its a tight itame and the polish is too poor to see the boshi. I'll get to the school and smith after polish. Certainly a nihonto and probably shinto. More study tonight to place the era based upon sugata, jigane and shinogi/ji.