Masahide katana going up for sale no papers any idea if this is gimei?

[Yuradneprov]

Looks very very close but then why no papers.

[Yuradneprov]

Same with this so call sadakazu

[Ray Singer]

The "Sadakazu" is signed Ushū Yonezawa ju Yukifusa.

 

羽州米澤住行房

 

Same with this so call sadakazu

 

https://www.seiyudo.com/ka-010511.htm

[Yuradneprov]

I know but it says it's made by sadakazu that's what's weird raymond

[Ken-Hawaii]

That's why it helps to know (& trust) the seller, Yura. Only people like Ray are willing to stand behind the items they sell, & to provide a refund if there's an error.

[Yuradneprov]

Yes I know Ken, any opinion on the masahide?

[Ray Singer]

[SAS]

Off day for Masahide?

[Yuradneprov]

I think it looks legit

[chrstphr]

looks way off to me. Not even close.  

 

Chris

[paulb]

Yura

This is I thnnk the third time you have posted what you have hoped to be a sword by an important smith with no formal attribution that you might be able to buy for a bargain.

In swords as in anything else the old quotation

"if it looks too good to be true it probably is"

Those that you have posted show little resemblance to what they claim to be. A brief study of published literature should confirm this.

It is certainly possible to find an unrecognised treasure, some here have done so (aftr nearly 40 years in the field I am still waiting for my first find!) they are rare and generally are found by those who put the time in and study so they can recognise potential. 

This may appear like a criticism and in some ways it is but not meant with malice. It simply points out that:

firstly finding such treasures is a very rare expereince and when presented with what is claimed to be one you need to be very, very cautious

secondly the best and most rewarding way to find them is to study hard and base your decision on what you know rather than looking for others to do it for you.

[Brian]

Yura,
You say things like "looks legit" but we are not sure what you are basing this on?
Are you just looking at the words and saying they appear the same, or are you going down to individual stroke level, looking at stroke directions, lengths, depth, confidence etc? Then onto nakago jiri and shape and yasurime etc etc.
Comparing signatures is something that takes years and years of study, and I consider myself useless even after 12+ years.
But you really have to go down to minute details to decide if something is gimei. And the pics are far from suitable here.
It would be crazy to determine it "looks legit" just from the pics presented.

[Jacques]

No need to check the strokes, atari and so on..  Just knowing Masahide's mei history is needed. He did'nt use kokuin in tenmei era. 

[Ray Singer]

Yura, please look closely. I posted a comparison with a Juyo Masahide with an identical date to the sword you are showing. The same way you should have skepticism when encountering a potential Van Gogh in a thift store, you should have doubts when seeing a sword at auction with an important signature and no papers.

 

 

I think it looks legit

[Yuradneprov]

Gentleman I'm not looking for treasure I'm still fairly new to this so I'm still learning to tell the difference between fake and real. I could afford to buy an expensive piece If I like it and really want it. Obviously it would be nice to find a nice sword for a good price but that's not why I listed this. By looks legit I meant look very real, I thought it was fake also because the stokes are different so is the date. I appreciate the good advice guys.