Oppinions On Some Iron Tsuba Please

[TheGermanBastard]

Hello,

 

may I please aks for some oppinion on the attached Tsubas as to Age / School?

 

Thank you very much,

 

Luis

[rkg]

From what I can see, I'd guess they're all mid-late edo. period.

first image pair:

 

Top - I guess you'd call it a katchushi, though I have no clue if a Myochin guy did it or a shoami guy did it, or....

bottom: what does the mei say? you can't see it in this image (though to be fair if I did, odds are slim I could puzzle it out anyway, but...)

 

second image pair:

 

top - I'd guess that would be binned as shoami work

bottom left: signed Kaneiye, but who knows which one or if somebody else just signed it that way as an homage piece (utushi)

bottom right: - that one is interesting - I kind of wonder if it was done by Takechika, but probably not

 

On the late pieces with the various themes on the surface (along the bottom of both images) - I'm no real expert on the late stuff, but they all could have been made by many different groups so hopefully somebody who knows that stuff better will chime in

 

Oops, computer is done crunching a focus stack, image gotta run

 

Good Luck,

 

rkg

(Richard George)

[TheGermanBastard]

Hello Richard,

 

thank you very much for your kind help. Espeically on the bottom two on the 2nd image set.

 

For the top one in the 1st image set I thought it to be a Muromachi Owari Piece. In the 2nd image set I thought the top tsuba to be Sukashi and also an older piece.

 

However I am very ignorant on Tsuba hence I appreciate all thoughts and oppinions.

 

Thanks a lot again,

 

Luis

[christianmalterre]

i do like the first one with the fukurin.

looks good to me....

 

may this be a Kyo ?

 

it somehow reminds me to the main Kyo or Kyo-Shoami, as Rich already did mention....

 

no Myochin but certainly!....they did not use this explicite sukashi work. (least, i do not know any Tsuba showing such).

 

( otherwise i fully do agree here....)

 

the pictures are bad my friend! (Luis)

it is definitely very hard to see any details - not to speak from the iron...

 

maybe you should post better pictures ?....least, this is what me here would do on your´s place...

 

?

 

Christian

[TheGermanBastard]

Those are not my pictures but the ones from the auction house where I bought them. They obviously came from an old colllection of a Japanese gentleman and he had gathered some quite nice pieces.I think there were some nice Goto Kinko works as well.

[Stephen]

Last photo bottom row guy with money bag (or rice)   for sale?

[TheGermanBastard]

Was also on auction today ... was signed Sôshû Odawara-jû - Masakatsu + kaô (相州小田原住・正勝「花押」) ... sold for about 1k each including premium.

[TheGermanBastard]

Removed

[TETSUGENDO]

Luis,

 

Your snake Tsuba is a relatively common model (along with.several.closely related variants), all later 19th /early20th century, all signed with false signatures.  They are popular but of very little real merit. Iwamoto Konkwan did not make this object.

 

-StevenK

[TheGermanBastard]

@ Steven, I don't think so

[Brian]

He is correct Luis. Discussed here before. Why did you remove the pic?
 

[Ian]

This may help on one?

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/16023/lot/62/

[Brian]

http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/19062-snake-tsuba/

Ford's reply is worth a re-read

[TheGermanBastard]

Hello Ian, thank you very much. Much appreciated.

[TheGermanBastard]

if anybody has any reference to the 1st image top one and the bow / arrow theme one it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much!

[MauroP]

Hi Luis,

nice tsuba here. My guess is:

n.o 1 Kyō-sukashi;

n.o 2 Aizu-Shōami (is it signed?);

n.o 3 Kyō-Shōami (or just Shōami);

n.o 4 signed Yamashiro (no) Kuni Fushimi jū Kaneie;

n.o 5 Umetada (possibly Shigenari).

Just my not-so-educated opinion.

Bye, Mauro

[TheGermanBastard]

Ciao Mauro!

 

Thank you very much for your kind oppinion.

 

Unfortuantely I do not know for sure if two is signed but think rather not.

 

Thanks again and best regards,

 

Luis