Bugyotsuji Posted July 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 Always nce to have cryptic messages on things. In this 'case', the dates do not seem to match, but it's the contents that matter! What is written on the fantastic Noshi Maedate, John? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun8 Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 Piers, Here's what's written on the back. It's strange because the perfect, mirror-like finish on the back makes it seem like the maedate is modern, but the excellent patina and detail evident on the front is definitely Edo. Another thing - the maedate is larger and heavier than most such maedate which are usually made of a very light, balsa-type wood. I wonder if this was once some kind of plaque in a Buddhist shrine. Anyone have any ideas? John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 Catching up a bit this morning with coffee and saw this thread, nice stuff. I enjoy and appreciate lacquer work, but have very little of it and what I have are small pieces. I prefer the tansu and/or wooden boxes, especially those adorned with metal banding and latches. Here are a couple of mine: Katana dansu: Tansu: Tansu: 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kusunokimasahige Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 Talking about a nice box..... Have you seen this one ?(I expect it will go high though)...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 No, I had not, but it is very fine. Thanks for posting it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kusunokimasahige Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 Most welcome. Whoever wins that has a gem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curran Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 I think I want to live in Ed's house. I'm ready to give up "Beach Paradise" minimalist living, and have tansu envy. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Curran, Your envy makes me think of one of Westside Story songs and I shall say : and what to keep in. In the song the girl wants a washing machine and the girls chorus answers : and what do you have to keep clean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curran Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Jean- Profound. I will parry, and riposte: http://www.weathernerds.org/tc_guidance/images/AL11_2017090412_ECENS.png?8695221 Class 4<->5 is no fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 praying it takes a sharp right hook!!! no upper cuts!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Touché, Curran 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 Couple of new additions: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted June 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Mmmm.... very satisfying. No expert on furniture here, but somehow I associate those with northern Honshu. (The lightness of the wood, the blackness, style and thickness of the fixtures.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Piers, Nope, these came from Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted June 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 Ed, I thought everything had to be bigger in Texas!?!? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illielee Posted April 8, 2019 Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 Anyone know what type of bako I have here? If the slot is original and what might it's purpose be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted April 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 Only one handle? Could it be a Zaisenbako for a Jinja or Tera, lifting the front to slide the coins to the back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illielee Posted April 9, 2019 Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 handles on each side at opposite ends...looks the same from each side. 42 inches long by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted April 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 Or, for an old bath house entrance, males and females drop their coins either side of the dividing screen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illielee Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 Are there offering boxes in this format? Could it possibly have been repurposed. Seems to me it would house something long. There are no signs that it had extensive bracing, but there does look to be signs of old glue on the inner bottom along one side and on that side is slight oxidation showing a curve similar to a katana or teppo hilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted April 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 Yes, katana-bako repurposed makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken-Hawaii Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 Piers, what is the difference between a katana-bako & a katanadansu? Or is it just the way you read the Kanji? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted April 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 Ken, just used it subconsciously! I guess with a single (long) box being a Hako, and a chest with drawers being a Tansu, if yours has drawers then it’s a katana-dansu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken-Hawaii Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 Thanks, Piers. I'd always thought that bako were smaller boxes, & hako larger ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 I'd always thought that bako were smaller boxes, & hako larger ones. Ken, it's is called rendaku 連濁, sequal voicing. The "ha" of hako 箱 (box) changes into a "ba" if it's the non-initial portion of a compound. For example, it's hakogaki, but tsubabako. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken-Hawaii Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 Thanks, Guido. If I can't get it right in transliterated English, I guess it wouldn't make sense to try it in Japanese! But I'll keep trying.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun8 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 Thought I'd revive this thread by sharing this negoro karabitsu from the Edo period: On a related note, does anyone know if there are any books published on antique Japanese boxes? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted April 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 John, good question. How do you know that your karabitsu is from the Edo Period? Could it not be earlier? (See post #33 earlier) Thanks for reviving this thread. This could be an excuse to get the camera out again. (Missing Eric now, though...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted April 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 In the meantime this one, from a temple, is dated. (Mid-Edo) Yes, the top swivels. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun8 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 John, good question. How do you know that your karabitsu is from the Edo Period? Could it not be earlier? (See post #33 earlier) Thanks for reviving this thread. This could be an excuse to get the camera out again. (Missing Eric now, though...) Hi Piers, When I first bought this karabitsu, I thought it could have been pre-Edo, but I have shown pictures of it to a few of our senior society members in Japan and they all seem to think that it's Edo. Eric is indeed missed... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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