Curran

$775 for today [Wednesday]. I will give this listing until Friday, before the Chicago show. My personal quirk is to travel with as little iron as possible, as I had TSA once try to tell me I could use things like iron tsuba, kozuka, and kogai as weapons.

Thank you. The old ones get en-vogue for a while, but currently seem out of vogue. I thought it would sell fast at that price, but only not too serious tire-kickers. Things like Shingen tsuba, which you couldn't give away 5 years ago, currently seem to be very en-vogue.

+1 to David Styles and Tasmanian Dale Thank you guys.

Ko-Tosho for Sale -Ubu, late Nambokuchu to early Muromachi- $800 $775 8.07cm x 7.7cm (3.9mm seppa dai vs 3.7mm) Oldest iron tsuba I have ever owned. Very nice seppa sukuri wear on the seppa dai, from a long time mounting. Excellent condition, color of an old sword nakago, and a sea of age evident when you view it in different lighting. Fitted raised box too. Curran

Maybe Mauro can suss out what is the design element. Ito-san's page says "Temari" or traditional Japanese hand ball. No image of the NBTHK papers and how they describe it. https://www.galleryy...m/jt0111kotoshotsuba

Thank you again Mauro. 勾 = be bent, slope, capture So the theme is "sloping jewel" as in akin to https://kansaicultur...-of-Japan-houju.html ??? -----------Glad to know you are back RKG. I didn't know you were ill. As life would have it, I was photographing a Ko-Tosho yesterday. In some light, it is battleship dark grey. In other light, it gets dark as a kamakura sword nakago. Ko-tosho is my call. I haven't bothered with the NBTHK opinion yet.

@Gakusee I know. The thread is posted in Tosogu, and @paul tsubadotinfo was highlighting the Tosogu shinsa. The time and expense of tosogu papers vs what the items sale for has become too great a %. Make the stenosis of # able to submit smaller, and the folly of it grows. Add to it how random some of the results can be, and it is just a bit of pissing into the wind.

Like many things these days, there is a bit of Shrink-flation at the NBTHK. Ideally, limiting the number means a bit return to more knowledgeable response of shinsa of years past. Realistically, it is just another hurdle. My opinion of NBTHK papers has slid the past decade. Now I check the dates of the papers and handicap the opinion. True story: [1] a very good condition iron tsuba that I thought was nidai Kanshiro. Off to NBTHK shinsa and the results are "Higo". Well, that is useless. As a friend said, "Use if to line a bird cage or the bottom of a cat box?" [2] I sold the tsuba. New owner put it through NTHK-NPO shinsa. They bounced it as "modern". Buyer asked me what I wanted to do? I said. "oh, I forgot it had NBTHK Hozon papers. You want them or want to return the tsuba?" [3] He kept the tsuba and papers. Amidst a divorce, he sold the tsuba. It pops up in Japan with a dealer, with more recent papers NBTHK papers to Kanshiro. [4] An authority shows it to me and says "shodai Kanshiro" So, what do I make of all that? Paper game, even more fiat than most currencies nowadays. Do I still paper? Kinda, sorta? Is it worth it? No, not really. I get a lot of Horyu on anything big names I send in to the NBTHK. I then have to wait 6 months more and resubmit. So far about a 100% success rate on the second try, but it is a lot of hassle and agent expense to have to submit twice for what should be relatively easy match workmanship and signature to books.

Nice explanation. -Pretty darn good copies, when under a wrap. Yes, seeing the backs will help. Good enough copies to get some of the things like the tri-marks at the armpits correct. Tri-clovers and spots on the body too. The ridge on the chest is a good imitation of the markings on the originals. The paws are not finished in enough detail, but still a nice effort. Close enough to the originals that Kyo Kinko would be likely how they paper. If they weren't so thin, they might get a waki-Goto call on a good day.

Great little package there. That it has an older Gassan blade in it really gives a bit of the gravitas of someone carrying it into wartime.

Legit tsuba. From the picture of inside the sukashi, I'd guess it to be repatinated. Probably it had condition issues that were cleaned up, and then repatinated. Take this as the devil's word, but many tsuba are repatinated. Some are incredibly well done. Others are a bit more "dipped". Believe it or not, many repatinated tsuba get NBTHK papers. Guido S. would insist it was only to Hozon in the past and No Longer Done according to his NBTHK sources, but I then watched tsuba I know to have been repatinated go on to get Hozon despite Guido's opinion. Repatinations at Tokubetsu Hozon or Juyo? Mmmm. Some exist. I had one with TH papers that I learned was repatinated. I also know of at least two Juyo that were repaired and repatinated. I had the pleasure of seeing the before, after, and after Juyo pics. I'm sorry that Guido isn't around to disagree with me.

+1. I'd like a copy of this book too.

Bingo. I can see both a Tochibata call and a Sado Island call. The iron definitely makes me think of the Sado Island tsuba.

The Akasaka borrowed from Higo. The Higo sometimes borrowed from the Akasaka. Later, the Tosa Myochin would often borrow from both of them and mishmash up a bit. Most of the ones you see with sukashi into the nakago ana are going to be Nishigaki, but there are some Akasaka and Tosa Myochin (and some early Hayashi, but those tend to be a very different beast). There were really a LOT of smiths in the Akasaka school, especially later on. Yours is probably a later Nishigaki later generation. That is my best guess, going off the internal spatial ratios of its design.

A burned or chemically torched Nagoya-mono tsuba.

Hi Jimi-san, Do you have a specific question? The tsuba is very Nishigaki in style, but very thin and possibly abused. The added gold feels late and clumsy.

Price Cut to $375 -Akasaka or Owari tsuba $425 + shipping- I've been busy at the Aquarium and not had time to time to list on the various Facebook venues. I figured I would give NMB one last chance before off to the "hordes". Given the multiple meanings behind the design, I felt this one was a bit more special for an martial artist here that might grok them.

One bump, before it goes over to the Facebook hoards.

You've done a good job helping YSAKE so far. The pics of the papers helped much. I was hoping it would be from the Osafune Bizen line (康光), where I have many of the books. The other form of 'Yasu' mostly rules that out, so now it is a process of elimination of the remaining suspects. The uncharacteristically wide legs of 'Mitsu' should help narrow down this particular John Hancock-like signature.

dude.... shut up and appreciate a late Christmas or early St. Patrick's Day I use two of those books on a regular basis, and the third one is worth worth at least $35-50 USD.

Akasaka or Owari tsuba $425 + shipping This is a very famous Akasaka design, though supposedly of Owari origin. Published in many many books, and it is very rare to find an example for sale. My opinion: the geometry on this one is more Owari than Akasaka. It is thick and the sukashi is more Owari drop edged. I believe this to be a kodai example, and I am pricing it as such. Not a $4250 shodai ko-Akasaka, but fairly $425 as a kodai-Akasaka or kodai Owari. The patina is a flat brown and a bit thin in 2 spots. See pics. I think it would be a great one for mounting. Size: 79.5mm x 79mm x 5.8mm thick. Please ask all questions. PM me if interested. I will leave it up here for 24 hours before letting the Facebook groups have a grab at it. Curran

Dragon by Edvard Munch Ichiryu Tomotoshi.

Saw one that might be useful for a project. PM sent.

It seems someone has been posting masterpiece level work while I was off winter hiking in the mountains. Thank you for sharing this J. The first time I saw one of these Risendo School Crows under the Moon was shortly after 9/11 in Sotheby's. It was a spark of beauty that rekindled the spirit after the horror of sight, sound, and smells we had just been through.

? was that listed 8 years ago? This one more recently: https://ginzaseikodo.../fittings/yagyufune/ And are we discussing again whether or not the Ono tsuba makers also made Yagyu tsuba? Yes, they do have a lot of similarities, but I don't feel they are the same.