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Translation help with a mei and Hozon
LastSamurai replied to LastSamurai's topic in Translation Assistance
Thanks everyone, you've been very helpful! Late Muromachi would make it even older than I expected, if so. To be honest, that blade (even to my untrained eyes) looked a bit older than the middle Edo period I thought it was made... -
Translation help with a mei and Hozon
Bugyotsuji replied to LastSamurai's topic in Translation Assistance
https://sanmei.com/contents/en-us/p1133.html (Some reading about three generations here. You can put the name into a search field and run searches.) -
Legit copper or very good fake?
Rawa replied to John C's topic in Auctions and Online Sales or Sellers
@Scoggposted pic with numbers. Still stupid amount even if such a "artistic" piece is only one you miss. -
Translation help with a mei and Hozon
Nobody replied to LastSamurai's topic in Translation Assistance
Maybe late Muromach period. -
Translation help with a mei and Hozon
LastSamurai replied to LastSamurai's topic in Translation Assistance
Thank you, Moriyama Koichi! Do you, by chance, know/learned anything about the smith or the period he was active? Any bit of information will be indeed very helpful. -
Looks like Fans design, cast iron to me. Definitely later cast imo.
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Obviously, certification can't be understood from the nakago or the signature alone, so in this case I was just making a deduction. Process: Of the three signatures, identify the one that is definitely genuine... the third is a textbook example and is also the only one dated (Perhaps a coincidence, I didn't open the Aoi links to see if the others are dated). The other two are both well-executed overall, so need to delve into the details. What doesn't convince me about signature no. 2 is the character 近, which doesn't seem precise, and it seems like more pressure was applied to the strokes than the rest. Then there's the character 忠, where the bottom stroke appears a bit rounded, whereas it should be very square, as can be seen in examples 1 and 3. Overall, his signature is very square with very clean strokes. The last is a gem from @Jacques (Honor to merit), who in another post had indicated that one Tadahiro's signature feature is the decreasing size of the characters from top to bottom. For me, this feature is very evident in #3, less so in #1, and completely absent in #2. An interesting thing to explore in this specific case is that Aoi has decided to list #2 as non-guaranteed. This, to me, means they're ruling out the possibility that it could be a daimei which is common for Tadahiro since he collaborated with both the 3rd and 4th generation, so as I interpret it for Aoi it is gimei. Giordy
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So let's get to it First of all, my compliments to everyone who publicly presented their estimate and opinion I can only hope that no one was influenced by the file name for sugata (fixed in the meantime) Mea culpa It's easy to define what to focus on if one knows the answer Nevertheless, I'll try First of all, it's sugata Here is a composition of this blade with blades of the schools that appeared in the posts From the left, the blade in kantei/ Gotoba/ Ko-Ichimonji/ Yoshifusa/ Hatakeda Moriie ( Shodai ) All blades have approximately the same sugata and are ubu The monouchi area at the blade in kantei is losing sori (we can see the same at the Gotoba blade) That should point us to the Heian/very early Kamakura period Just like the Jifu utsuri in the photo of sugata The preserved funbari from the photo of sugata and from photo 2 should be evidence that the blade is ubu Nakago-jiri: very unusual for the school to which the blade is attributed Most likely the shape of the nakago-jiri changed shortly after the blade was made, as the patina shows no differences compared to the surrounding surface Also according to the hi in the nakago it is clear that the nakago originally had larger sori (widening of the groove where the nakago was straightened) The Jigane is not quite what we would expect from a Ko-Hoki It does not seem rustic at first glance and is rather a tight itame with mokume with a lot of ji-nie and chikei (I hope it is clearly visible in photo 5 and 6) Nioiguchi is hardened in nie (photo 1, 5, 10) with tobiyaki, which form a kind of nijuba (photo 4, 10 on the right) And finally the Boshi, which clearly tending with much hakikake to kaen ( does not occur in the Bizen school - I do not exclude that there is an exception ) Cleary see from the photo and also from the oshigata The blade is attributed to the Ko-Hoki school with a direct attribution to Yasutsuna You can find a gallery for this blade here https://eu.zonerama.com/Nihonto/Album/13418224 Congratulations to everyone who got Atari
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Legit copper or very good fake?
Lareon replied to John C's topic in Auctions and Online Sales or Sellers
Crazy. Then again if someone is missing one from their collection, there's not too many out there and it's a low number, maybe the lowest? Bruce or someone who is tracking the serials could probably say. -
Really excited that I purchased my first nihonto and would like to share it with everyone and see what others think of this wakizashi. I think I got it for a pretty decent price and would like to know if it was a good starting sword to get into collecting. Also in the process of getting it a traditional Japanese silk sword bag to store it in and also what type of oil is good to keep the blade protected.
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I get a downvote for attempting to give some entirely well-intentioned advice? I can only presume that I must have frustrated someone who had hoped to relieve the OP of his find before he found out what it actually was.
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This is hard to pick sugata. The only blades I have and have seen in person are what are normal for modern day Chinese replica. Approx 28 inches Sori I forget but I think approx 1.5cm to 1.8cm and Chu kissaki. Truthfully I think I would like a lot of them. Ok so we can take the latest six and I would take any if other features that we will get into after this are something I like. I think I like o-kissaki of course if straighter blade and chu kissaki for more curve sori in blade. This is hard because I haven’t held a katana that is straighter. I wonder if I narrowed anything down? And technically I think the first of the last six, middle one that is shorter and nakago is short. Probably like a wazakashi? If a wazakashi that has longer blade would have better features and be nicer for less price I can go that way also. Sorry it’s hard to explain this one. It’s easier for me to maybe pick other things like hamon etc. But maybe o-kissaki with a hamon that works with it. I will know when I see a Hamon and can visualize it on the kissaki
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Thanks for all of the info fellas. Much appreciated!
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Translation help with a mei and Hozon
Nobody replied to LastSamurai's topic in Translation Assistance
濃州関住兼付作 - Noshu Seki ju Kanetomo saku The paper was issued in May 23, 2019. -
Legit copper or very good fake?
Rawa replied to John C's topic in Auctions and Online Sales or Sellers
https://ebay.us/m/Czkfqt It has sold for 9k. Unbelievable. -
I think there's two ways of looking at it, I clearly see it happening in this topic. The view of a dealer and the view of a hobbyist. As a dealer you want something that is resellable, preferably gains value over time, and is priced in such a way that you can recoup the shipping and taxes if you sell it on. As a hobbyist, you want something you like, find interesting etc. and the sell-ability is not that important. Should a hobbyist care if they sell it later with a loss of 1K $? If you have a hobby car, you can lose that kind of money every year on maintenance. It's just money spent on your hobby. If I look at these two examples, I think they are interesting; the Nobuie one has an intestesting shape and Hamon, but as others said, it would be better without horimono; The one by Ikeda Ryuken Isshu has a tokuho certificate, but I worry that the boshi runs out of the kissaki; but I'm not 100% sure that is the case based on the pictures. I have no idea about the resellability of either blade, but as a collector perhaps you don't care that much. What you might ask from a collectors perspective is: "can I get something better for my budget?" For that question you should define what "better" means for you. For me the weird horimono and the possible boshi problem would be a pass, but if I had to pick I'd go for Nobuie.