Marius Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Hello, I have only these bad pictures, but I am very interested in this tsuba. I have no dimensions, will provide them later. My guess is: Akao What do you think? 1 Quote
Mark Green Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Wow, I really like that one. I was thinking Akasaka. Quote
Marius Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Posted January 16, 2011 Wow, I really like that one. I was thinking Akasaka. Interesting lead... Thanks Not quite convinced, though... Quote
Martin Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 I would also say Akasaka. Kantei points for me are: - the full round Mimi - the quite "modern" execution of the motiv (lack of symmetry) - the arangement of Tagane marks around the Nakago-Ana - the faint Kebori Best, Quote
Marius Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Posted January 16, 2011 I would also say Akasaka. Martin, Many thanks, that sounds convincing, although I haven't seen this particular motive in Iki Na Sukashi Akasaka Tsuba... Quote
Aloof Pegasus Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Hi Mariusz I agree with your guess and I really like the tsuba. Quote
ububob Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 Think I'll go along with your spoiler. Quote
Martin Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 Think I'll go along with your spoiler. Well then, bring up some Kantei-points for Akao ? What makes you think it was made by this group? Quote
Aloof Pegasus Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 Yes that's right, Martin! I wonder if it's dished? Seppa dai does not seem Akasaka style. I think this flattened mimi and slightly 2 dimensional look is more Akao than Akasaka. However I agree the tagane mannerisms don't seem typically Akao. Mariusz what's your feeling about the texture of the iron? It looks soft in the pic. Akao can exhibit; 鉄槌目地 Tetsu tsuchime-ji Iron hammered surface 土手耳 Dote-mimi A rounded raised rim 耡下毛彫 Sukisage KeBori Line carving of consistent depth and width Starting to waver, not sure the quality is there. Quote
Marius Posted January 18, 2011 Author Report Posted January 18, 2011 Mariusz what's your feeling about the texture of the iron? It looks soft in the pic. Alas, I am not the owner of this tsuba... I asked him how it feels, I hope I'll get an answer :-) Quote
Michael 101 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 I am also convinced its Akasaka school for all the reasons already stated plus the iron colour. From the punch marks visible at the top of the nakago ana and the inward sloping seppa dai towards the ana - I would say possibly the work of the 4th master. Would be interested to see the mimi - I would expect linear tokotsu and also for it to be fairly robust in terms of thickness maybe 6 - 7mm Very Nice tsuba. Thanks for showing. Kind regards Michael Quote
Marius Posted January 19, 2011 Author Report Posted January 19, 2011 Thanks for all input, I do appreciate it Some additional data on this tsuba: Dimensions: 74/71/6 mm. Thickness in seppa-dai and on the mimi is the same. Some close-up pictures attached. That is all I have got from the owner... Quote
Henry Wilson Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 I would go Akasaka too, for the reasons above. Also I think the punches around the nakago ana are the kind you see in some Akasaka guards Quote
Lorenzo Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 In the top part of the first picture of your last post Mariusz, I see layered(laminated) steel Quote
Marius Posted January 20, 2011 Author Report Posted January 20, 2011 In the top part of the first picture of your last post Mariusz, I see layered(laminated) steel Lorenzo, I think what you see is part of the decoration - it is the bamboo ladle (hishaku) Quote
Henry Wilson Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 I was thinking layered steel too, (around the nakago ana) which is not a bad thing at all... Quote
Lorenzo Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 I think what you see is part of the decoration - it is the bamboo ladle (hishaku) this is what I mean: Quote
Marius Posted January 21, 2011 Author Report Posted January 21, 2011 Thanks for your thoughts, I do appreciate it Now, what do you think about a tsuba with a similar motif, that has come to me with the attribution to Akao? Quote
Henry Wilson Posted January 22, 2011 Report Posted January 22, 2011 I am not familiar with the Akao school so can't comment. As a thought the seppa dai is very distinct which could be a factor. Overall the design seems a bit rigid compared to the last one. Quote
Curran Posted January 23, 2011 Report Posted January 23, 2011 1st Tsuba: Akasaka. I'd say 4th generation or a student of 4th gen. 2nd tsuba: not Akasaka or very late Akasaka Quote
cdl Posted October 13, 2019 Report Posted October 13, 2019 Hello, I'm very intereseted in this tsuba if by chance one day you want to sell it ... your price will be mine. Bests regards Quote
Brian Posted October 13, 2019 Report Posted October 13, 2019 8 Years later Stephane?I am sure it is long gone by now.Pete, I bet you are correct, but what kantei points led you there? Quote
cdl Posted October 13, 2019 Report Posted October 13, 2019 I send already a message but got no answer unfortunately ... I call this "patience" :-) Who knows ... maybe I can trace it ... for exemple I found this kogai 1 year later ... Quote
Pete Klein Posted October 13, 2019 Report Posted October 13, 2019 Brian - the tagane on the seppa can sometimes be seen on Tosa Myochin tsuba. They did many tsuba in the Akasaka style. If not TM I'd say Akasaka. 1 Quote
cdl Posted October 13, 2019 Report Posted October 13, 2019 Hello, You stil have this tsuba ? ... I have two Akasaka from different periods ... always same theme Quote
cdl Posted October 13, 2019 Report Posted October 13, 2019 ... "Let's hurry to succumb to temptation before she walks away." Epicure Quote
cdl Posted November 13, 2019 Report Posted November 13, 2019 Brian - the tagane on the seppa can sometimes be seen on Tosa Myochin tsuba. They did many tsuba in the Akasaka style. If not TM I'd say Akasaka. Hello, If by chance somebody see this tsuba I'd like to propose 1500$ ... without hurting or shockin anybody. Bests regards Stephane Quote
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