Hello, Sword Nr.6 anything what you could please tell me about this swords? Makers year value etc? ty

[Jake007]

This one is signed to both sides of tang with different Marks to each

[Shugyosha]

Hi Jake, 

This is the one signed Yoshiomi, it has the Nagoya Arsenal stamp and is dated November in the 18th year of Showa. The fittings look better than standard gunto fittings and the tachi mei also adds interest. 
 

I’m still not 100% sure that the two sides of the tang photographed are of the same blade: the colour is different and the hand of the inscription doesn’t match for me, however, I’m not a military swords guy but these gentlemen can help:  @mecox @Bruce Pennington @PNSSHOGUN

[Jake007]

Thank you so much. this is the same blade, it's just different light... 100% positive two sides are marked like that

Edited Friday at 09:35 PM by Jake007

[nulldevice]

1 minute ago, Shugyosha said:

Hi Jake, 

This is the one signed Yoshiomi, it has the Nagoya Arsenal stamp and is dated November in the 18th year of Showa. The fittings look better than standard gunto fittings and the tachi mei also adds interest. 
 

I’m still not 100% sure that the two sides of the tang photographed are of the same blade: the colour is different and the hand of the inscription doesn’t match for me, however, I’m not a military swords guy but these gentlemen can help:  @mecox @Bruce Pennington @PNSSHOGUN

 

Looks like the same blade to me. You can see a tiny obstruction in the mekugi ana at the 6 o clock position that is seen on both sides. 

[cluckdaddy76]

I just did a quick search. All of these swords are listed on liveauctioneers.com right now, this one from Gold Coast Auctions. My opinion is I would not touch a single one of these. Go to the link section on here and look at some websites from legitimate dealers. Compare what you see there to what you have posted. There is a reason when auction sites only post a few pics that are not high resolution or close up enough to see the important details.  I would also suggest doing some basic research on your own about this subject before buying one. It can save you from wasting money on fakes. 

 

Jason

[nulldevice]

Yeah I agree. Posting 11 swords here and asking "Which is legit or not" with the hopes of buying one of them isn't the best way to get into this hobby IMO. 

[Jake007]

Thank you for your advice, I will keep in mind before I even think about purchasing anything. Obviously I don't know a lot about Japanese Swords..., I found out that on auctions you can buy sometimes if you know what you are doing nice things for small money... lower than on market value. I thought that you guys will advise me. Thank you, I understand that is difficult to buy something genuine not knowing a lot. They all seemed to look good to me...

[Scogg]

Hi @Jake007,

I have relocated some of the more obvious fakes to the "Fake Japanese Sword" section linked here:
https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/forum/142-fake-Japanese-swords/

I suspect a couple of the others may also be fakes, but I have left them here for now so members have the opportunity to weigh in. 

I have to agree with the above, that this is not the best way to feel out a purchase. Many Japanese sword collectors have their "finger on the pulse" of these auction sites, and while it might seem like there are deals to be had, those deals are usually only found by those with a trained and educated eye. I'd recommend reading up a bit, looking into some books, and doing some study before a purchase. As an entry, I really like "The Art of the Japanes Sword" by Leon and Hiroko Kapp and Yoshindo Yoshihara. Also the "Connoisseurs book of Japanese swords" by Kokan Nagayama is very often recommended and is a great resource.

Your dime your time of course; but you may encounter many pitfalls with this approach. 
All the best,
-Sam 

[cluckdaddy76]

42 minutes ago, Jake007 said:

They all seemed to look good to me...

Welcome Jay to the forum. Here is a dealer in Japan that has very nice swords and fittings. https://www.seiyudo.com.   Or go to the nihonto info tab here up top, click on links and then pull up the pages commercial 1-4. There are tons of links to legitimate dealers. Great place to start poking and if you think the blades you posted looked good, get ready for the real deal. Good luck and have fun.

 

Jason

[mecox]

@Jake007   @Bruce Pennington Jake based on the nakago only and as noted above smith is Kaneomi and date November, 1943.   But  the blade almost looks chromed .

 

But here is the  smith:

YOSHITOMI 義臣 (also read Yoshiomi): real name Takeyama Kazuo (武山数雄).
Born Meiji 43 (1910) April 3, younger brother of Yoshinao (義尚). Registered in Seki on Showa 14 (1939) October 27 (age 29). Akihide 1942: Rōkō no retsu (7/7).

Example mei:  (“Seki Yoshiomi saku”), (“Seki ju Yoshitomi saku”  SEKI) (“Takeyama Yoshitomi” SHO) [Slough p.202].   

Your mei is  義臣    but interesting is that it has the small Nagoya Arsenal "na"  名  stamp on both sides. 

 

Note:  I only later saw all the swords posted on this link !

[Brian]

Blade is either chromed or buffed within an inch of its life. Hard pass.

[Bruce Pennington]

There is hamon visible in that last photo of the kissaki, so probably highly buffed.