Swords Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 I thought this sword interesting fo 2300 if it’s a gimie I can always return it Hopefully not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okan Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 Steven, there is a beautiful "Military Swords of Japan" section, you know.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swords Posted May 6 Author Report Share Posted May 6 No i didnt how do i access it 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaris Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/forum/45-military-swords-of-Japan/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John C Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 4 hours ago, Swords said: if it’s a gimie Steven: I think the mei is legit. Here is a pic of mine for comparison (not very good, but you can make out some kanji). And just to emphasize, this is the son Shuji Kanenobu (his father went by Niwa) John C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swords Posted May 6 Author Report Share Posted May 6 Does that make it lesser value 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dereks Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 29 minutes ago, Swords said: Does that make it lesser value Don't you know what you bought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swords Posted May 6 Author Report Share Posted May 6 Yes I don’t know why I said that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 When you fill up your car do you get diesel or petrol, or figure it doesn't matter as you can just return it if it blows up your engine? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 You got a good deal on that gendaito, Steven. It's legit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 Very few gimei wartime Gendaito, especially star stamped ones. It will be legit. Not a terrible price for a RJT sword. You won't make money on it, but it will be a decent wartime Gendaito at a fair price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swords Posted May 7 Author Report Share Posted May 7 Thanks good to hear positive I probably got it a little cheaper if I asked less but didn’t want to lose it Only wish it had a better hamon steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dereks Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 1 hour ago, Swords said: Thanks good to hear positive I probably got it a little cheaper if I asked less but didn’t want to lose it Only wish it had a better hamon steve What do you mean by better hamon? Whats wrong with its hamon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swords Posted May 7 Author Report Share Posted May 7 Sorry I didn’t get back sooner I did a comparison of the mei from what I can see it looks the same to me I also compared to book by John Slough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Flynn Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 I think he means a more Flamboyant, type of Hamon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swords Posted May 7 Author Report Share Posted May 7 Yes David flamboyant probably a good analogy but the characteristic by this smith is wide suguba which I believe represents this hamon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Flynn Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Kanenobu, as with many Showa period smiths, did many styles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dereks Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 I don't have a great knowledge but I'm learning everyday. What worries me is the large fukure on the hamon area. I believe it will be a tough job for the polisher to remove it right? It looks very deep. So it's 2300 + polish..another 2k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaris Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Is that a fukure? It can be seen on both sides of the blade, next to the habaki. The seller said it has no chips or cracks as per original post so... What is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dereks Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Well its neither chip nor crack so seller wasn’t lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swords Posted May 8 Author Report Share Posted May 8 I will have to look at it when I get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaris Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Well, he also said very good condition so we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeLuucas Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 To me, it looks like the blade had some corrosion/rust in the yakiba, and someone removed the rust with something abrasive. I have a WW2 sword with similar issues. Probably not fatal - certainly not ideal. It seems some less-informed folks would rather scratch up the blade and claim it to be "rust free and therefore 'very good' condition". I would consider that amateur restoration in my opinion, and something we should never do. Ultimately it boils down to what you're willing to accept as the buyer. All the best, -Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swords Posted May 8 Author Report Share Posted May 8 You’re right when I get a hands on look at it I will take close up pictures Thanks again for all the help! I’m glad I posted it Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco D Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 7 hours ago, Dereks said: What worries me is the large fukure on the hamon area. I believe it will be a tough job for the polisher to remove it right? Flaws within the hamon should be considered there to stay. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swords Posted May 8 Author Report Share Posted May 8 I was so busy looking at the good part of the hamon I didn’t look hard enough at the bad part I dont this would be considered Very good condition ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John C Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 31 minutes ago, Swords said: Very good condition ? Steven: Obviously "very good" is subjective and open to interpretation. Personally, I don't think you overpaid (top of its value maybe) because the koshirae seem to be in good condition. If the blade were perfect and in perfect polish and being sold by some members of this board, it would be in the 3200 dollar range rather than 2300. It's a decent package and wasn't priced exorbitantly. Mal Cox has some really good info on this smith, if you have downloaded his excellent monographs from the download tab. John C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 Just wait until you receive it. Then you can see properly. Stain can look like pitting. Shadow can look like an opening. Just chill for a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swords Posted May 9 Author Report Share Posted May 9 Thanks John hope you’re right Brian I am trying to be positive so will wait and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swords Posted May 14 Author Report Share Posted May 14 Got the sword yesterday I had high hopes but to me it looked at some point someone tried to remove rust causing damage Too bad the rest of the blade looks nice ! Having a 2 million yen star stamped would have a decent sword to own The seller asked if I would take a partial refund but I don’t believe it can be restored ? here pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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