Shin-Gunto with Olive over Red Scabbard - Interesting Scabbard End Fitting and Mon

[tbonesullivan]

Got in this interesting one a while back and just now am getting to it after dealing with cat troubles, Covid, and other fun things. The blade is unfortunately pretty worn, though it does look old and has been cut down. It's got a tassel on the kabuto-gane and a perforated tsuba. The hanger ring is not removable, so it does not look to be a Type 94, but I usually only see the smooth olive brown paint over a red primer on the Type 94 types.

 

The end fitting on the scabbard (sayajiri?) also is unlike anything I have handled before. It looks to be some kind of symbol. Does anyone know what it signfies?

 

I've also been trying to identify the mon, but have not had much luck, and may have gotten eye strain trying to identify it.

 

Any help is greatly appreciated!

[lonely panet]

railyway symbols, count down is on

[Bruce Pennington]

I’m silently screaming inside, as I am away from home and don’t have my books!. Hamish is right. I just don’t recall which railroad.

[EdWolf]

David, 

The following thread might be interesting for you.

 

Regards, Ed

[BANGBANGSAN]

The drag is for 

4 hours ago, Bruce Pennington said:

I’m silently screaming inside, as I am away from home and don’t have my books!. Hamish is right. I just don’t recall which railroad.

It's railway company ,but not in the book.

The mark on the scabbard drag is the logo of 滿洲國國有鐵道（Manchukuo National Railway）. Like 華北交通（North China Railway)， the MNR officer carries swords。 But the complete sword should have the logo on the Kabutogane as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchukuo_National_Railway

 

[Bruce Pennington]

I noticed one of the North China rail Swords in the thread Ed referenced has the same read under coating on the saya.

[MarcoUdin]

13 hours ago, tbonesullivan said:

 

I've also been trying to identify the mon, but have not had much luck, and may have gotten eye strain trying to identify it.

 

 

Mon stands for Mokko 木瓜 (Melon),

many families used it.

[PNSSHOGUN]

Look to be pre 1938 style mounts.

[BANGBANGSAN]

On 11/1/2022 at 2:24 AM, tbonesullivan said:

Got in this interesting one a while back and just now am getting to it after dealing with cat troubles, Covid, and other fun things. The blade is unfortunately pretty worn, though it does look old and has been cut down. It's got a tassel on the kabuto-gane and a perforated tsuba. The hanger ring is not removable, so it does not look to be a Type 94, but I usually only see the smooth olive brown paint over a red primer on the Type 94 types.

 

The end fitting on the scabbard (sayajiri?) also is unlike anything I have handled before. It looks to be some kind of symbol. Does anyone know what it signfies?

 

I've also been trying to identify the mon, but have not had much luck, and may have gotten eye strain trying to identify it.

 

Any help is greatly appreciated!

 

Hey David ,can you remove the handle and show us both sides full tang? It maybe an older blade .