Auction curiousities

[Jrbjag]

Good morning!

I'm not planning to bid on any of these items, but curious to see if any have thoughts on these curious items.

 

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/117844227_japanese-style-tanto-sword

This tanto looks pretty, and nice presentation, but I haven't seen any Japanese tantos with a recess that looks like this or a hamon that looks so 2 dimensional.  Photos aren't great, but is this something other than a modern display piece?

 

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/118228310_samurai-sword-leather-scabbard

This looks gunto-esque... but what's going on here?  The tsuba flowers are white and it looks like overspray on both the pink and yellow color.

I can see the milling marks in the photo of the engraving, so that part is machine made.  The metal layers in the sword look interesting, though.

Has there ever been a leather-wrapped handle on a genuine gunto?

Best,

John

[Stephen]

The latter is Chinese knock off.

Yes they did have all weather gear for gunto with leather. Normally it was like a sock that pulled over it.

[Brian]

Former is Chinese repro.

[ROKUJURO]

51 minutes ago, Jrbjag said:

....https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/117844227_japanese-style-tanto-sword

This tanto looks pretty, and nice presentation, but I haven't seen any Japanese TANTO with a recess that looks like this or a hamon that looks so 2 dimensional.  Photos aren't great, but is this something other than a modern display piece?....

Hi John,

the answer is: No, I don't think so.

[Spartancrest]

Both examples are Chinese - and not very good at that - when you see a date or name cut into the blade just above the habaki, give it a miss!

I can't read the kanji but I bet it says something like made in 1650 which is total BS.

[suketaka]

the first is a 30 years old Paul Chen  Hanwei forge Tanto.

 

I sold the same for 300 $ a few years ago.

[ROKUJURO]

For those who can read there is no need for discussion. The (correct) description text says

Japanese style TANTO sword