Fuuten Posted December 9, 2021 Report Posted December 9, 2021 Good evening everyone, I suppose this is the right place, though its not because its for sale I feel like writing this. I've been looking at this naginata for a couple weeks now. The sugata of this sword, its atmosphere, is just awe inspiring. I sit behind my monitor with my jaw hanging, nearly drooling over my desk. This naginata (Tokubetsu Juyo and I'm not even thinking twice on why (leading to wondering how many naginata even went beyond Juyo)), is one wicked piece. I mean - look! It leaves me awestruck - https://www.nipponto.co.jp/swords/JT988980.htm 2 4 Quote
paulb Posted December 9, 2021 Report Posted December 9, 2021 Axel Sorry to disagree but personally I find this blade very unattractive. The only reason I can think that it achieved such high ranking is the fact it is ubu and that is extremely rare. Regarding the hada hand hamon it looks coarse and tired and I have seen many far better Shikkake examples Don't mean to be argumentative but of all the blades receiving Tokubetsu Juyo certification this time round I find this the most difficult to understand. not least when one considers some of the pieces that failed. 1 Quote
Jussi Ekholm Posted December 9, 2021 Report Posted December 9, 2021 I've been butting heads with Paul over this for a good while However I must agree with his analysis on that it is not the best Shikkake work qualitywise. The size of it and how it has been preserved make it rare and precious. You cannot find many ubu naginata of this length from Nanbokuchō period surviving. I was looking at the data that I currently have and I think I have 16 naginata of around this size or larger from Kamakura & Nanbokuchō periods that have survived to this day. Of them 13 are Bunkazai, Bijutsuhin or non-classified items owned by shrines. So in overall the chances in owning a naginata of this size and age are very slim even for someone in Japan. 2 Quote
Rivkin Posted December 9, 2021 Report Posted December 9, 2021 Well by the time I am finishing it, I am ending up echoing the previous statement. its ubu (sort of) which is unusual for the period. Otherwise jigane is very rough, it reeks of Muromachi spirit rather than Kamakura. Hamon is good, but nothing one would not expect from any shikkake out there. Quote
Toryu2020 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Posted December 9, 2021 Beautiful and rare - I like it too Axel. -t 1 Quote
Fuuten Posted December 9, 2021 Author Report Posted December 9, 2021 Ok. Opinions differ. To me it's like seeing a Momoyama period tea bowl. Something about such artefacts gives me a certain feeling, an impression that brings me to a certain headspace. They speak for themselves. I do agree the photography is, for lack of a better term, lifeless or 'flat'. Some sites these days brought up the standard and it is such a major difference that photos like these are not even in the same league. This naginata still speaks to me though. Just magnificent 🤤 Edit: unrelated but I think very much worth sharing as I think it's quite a great tool, nifty? Spoiler Not just for these types of papers but it also helps me out with tea bowls that came with a nice little pamphlet about the maker. Google lens I only found out about this a month or so ago - so it might be old news for many (first time I'm genuinely happy with my smartphone, this is handy!). You need an Android phone though (there are websites for this too but lens works for just camera as well, no recording necessary). I have a pretty old model so anyone that has one from the last 4 years should have this too. Tokubetsu Juyo paper from subject naginata, as a for instance. 2 Quote
Jean Posted December 9, 2021 Report Posted December 9, 2021 I have seen and handle such naginata at one of my friend’s home it is now in Gordon Robson’s collection, very long and expensive, end of Muromachi, Mino - Kanabo school. 1 Quote
Gakusee Posted December 9, 2021 Report Posted December 9, 2021 Yes, we discussed this together with some folks. Very rough and very ugly but a very nice sugata and rare. However, rarity per se has not been a decisive factor for the NBTHK in the last 2-3 years when they have overlooked extremely rare and highly ranked smiths and passed them over for “promotion” to the more ethereal ranks of the grading ladder. The conclusion we reached after analysing how they have been behaving lately (kind of last 3-4 shinsa) was that they seem to lately award a heavier weight to sugata - big, manly, as preserved as possible lengthwise. 1 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted December 9, 2021 Report Posted December 9, 2021 I just love how powerfully this strikes you!!! Ha! I laughed in delight and still am smiling as I write this! It is the joy of our collecting that makes it all so fun. Go for it man! 4 Quote
Alex A Posted December 10, 2021 Report Posted December 10, 2021 Must have made a very pleasent change for the Shinsa team! Guess rarity has a quality all of its own (dunno why text has gone bigger) Quote
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