Help with kyu mei

[ribendao]

Any guesses on this one?

 

 

[Grey Doffin]

Suishinshi Masahide witha kao.

Grey

[ribendao]

Thanks Grey

[ribendao]

47 minutes ago, Grey Doffin said:

Suishinshi Masahide witha kao.

Grey

Would this be the same Masahide that is said to be the "founder of shinshinto?"

[PNSSHOGUN]

Yes, there are many Gimei out there of this smith.

[Bruce Pennington]

What’s under the seppa?

[ribendao]

2 hours ago, Bruce Pennington said:

What’s under the seppa?

Not sure. These pictures are provided by the seller. Its on a model 1883 naval sword.

[SteveM]

Its the era name. The whole thing is

享和二年八月吉日

真之甲伏鍛此二刀限余不造

 

Kyōwa ninen hachigatsu kichijitsu

Mano kōbuse kono nitō kagiri amari tsukurazu

 

A lucky day in August 1802

Made in kōbuse style ...  (?)

 

I don't know what is meant by the bit after that, but my guess is that this is part of a two-sword set that was made like this, and that it was a unique set ("made no others like it"). He often used 15-plate kōbuse style, and engraved that on his swords. This only mentions kōbuse (nothing about how many layers). 

[ribendao]

Thanks for the translation Steve. This seems like a pretty detailed and unique mei. Are these kind of mei common among other gimei swords?

[SteveM]

If possible, forget about what is written on the nakago for a moment. Imagine it is blank. Does the sword look like an actual Suishinshi Masahide sword? Does the shape, the hada, the tip, the hamon, have the qualities of a Suishinshi Masahide sword? If so, its a good thing, and you can start to debate the merits of the signature. He is a big name. People will go to great lengths to fake a big name (so, yes, it isn't strange to find a long, counterfeit name). 

[ribendao]

I don’t have any pictures of the whole sugata but the hamon and kissaki seem to be on point.

 

 

 

 

 

[Geraint]

On 4/18/2021 at 3:07 AM, ribendao said:

hamon and kissaki seem to be on point.

 

I see what you did there!    You could really do with a shot of the whole blade but if you are thinking of buying it then go for what the kyugunto is worth and anything else is a bonus.  

 

Let us know how it turns out.

 

All the best.

[ribendao]

3 hours ago, Geraint said:

 

I see what you did there!    You could really do with a shot of the whole blade but if you are thinking of buying it then go for what the kyugunto is worth and anything else is a bonus.  

 

Let us know how it turns out.

 

All the best.

It ended up going for $4100 before auction fees. So I guess someone thought it was worth the investment.